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QueenSidhe (7:04:37 PM): Evening all. royw365 (7:04:48 PM): hiya vickie Z0rPr1me (7:05:15 PM): hey vickie QueenSidhe (7:05:28 PM): How are you all doing tonight? royw365 (7:05:41 PM): freezing cold QueenSidhe (7:05:53 PM): Hehe. Same here. royw365 (7:06:09 PM): thought you were in california vickie QueenSidhe (7:06:11 PM): Although, not literally freezing. QueenSidhe (7:06:15 PM): It's still cold. Z0rPr1me (7:06:17 PM): cold!!!.... there is snow here already!!!!!!! QueenSidhe (7:06:19 PM): Just no snow, etc. royw365 (7:06:23 PM): hehe, it is literally freezing here royw365 (7:06:52 PM): down here in texas we only get to see pics of snow, we're not used to this weather Z0rPr1me (7:06:57 PM): I'm laggin a bit... QueenSidhe (7:07:27 PM): Everyone read or reread Dragonflight? Z0rPr1me (7:07:30 PM): down here we only get to see pics of sunshine!! :-) royw365 (7:07:40 PM): down there? royw365 (7:07:44 PM): yep vickie Z0rPr1me (7:07:46 PM): read it... didnt reread it since I read it past summer... Z0rPr1me (7:07:50 PM): oops up here :-) QueenSidhe (7:07:54 PM): :-) royw365 (7:07:57 PM): :-) QueenSidhe (7:08:23 PM): So what do you think of the book? royw365 (7:08:49 PM): good, but so far the 2nd in the series is written better QueenSidhe (7:08:55 PM): In your opinion, did it deserve a Nebula Award? (Technically, only the first part won the award.) Z0rPr1me (7:09:13 PM): Good book QueenSidhe (7:09:19 PM): Agree. I did like the second and third book in the series better. QueenSidhe (7:09:30 PM): So why aren't you going on to the rest of the series, Zor? royw365 (7:09:31 PM): hmm, at the time yes, but it wouldnt stand a chance if it were written today Z0rPr1me (7:09:38 PM): hmmm depends on what was out during that time :-)... but I would say no. QueenSidhe (7:09:48 PM): Why not? royw365 (7:10:12 PM): not much fantasy writing going on at that time from what i remember Z0rPr1me (7:10:16 PM): I dunno why i dont read the second... not appealing to me.... my TBR List is huge and I got plenty of books to pick from :-) QueenSidhe (7:10:32 PM): Technically, this is scifi, though. royw365 (7:10:53 PM): hmm, to me, if its got a dragon, its fantasy QueenSidhe (7:11:13 PM): Not when they are genetically engineered dragons. royw365 (7:11:23 PM): although Del Rey does classify it as scifi Z0rPr1me (7:11:45 PM): its scifi for me. Z0rPr1me (7:11:56 PM): but I thought it was fantasy cuz of dragons! :-) royw365 (7:12:01 PM): ok, i'll be the weird one out here Z0rPr1me (7:12:02 PM): damn laggin again Z0rPr1me (7:12:11 PM): lol QueenSidhe (7:12:20 PM): Why do you think it's scifi now? QueenSidhe (7:12:30 PM): Because all that stuff about Rukbat? Z0rPr1me (7:12:56 PM): me? QueenSidhe (7:12:59 PM): Yes. Z0rPr1me (7:13:12 PM): Hmmm good question... Its sci-fi cuz....... Z0rPr1me (7:13:25 PM): its what it says on the spine of my book ;-) royw365 (7:13:25 PM): well, since the threads are technically myrcorhizza (sp?), its not quite so fantastic as science Z0rPr1me (7:13:28 PM): rofl... jk royw365 (7:14:22 PM): i do think its a pretty good beginning to the series though QueenSidhe (7:14:33 PM): Why don't you think the book would win a Nebula now, Roy? Z0rPr1me (7:14:40 PM): actually i cant say... why i think its sci-fi... mb its because its not sword, castle and stuff like that. Fantasy for me is more like Epic fantasy.... QueenSidhe (7:14:42 PM): I thought the beginning was pretty good. royw365 (7:14:44 PM): way too much competition QueenSidhe (7:15:04 PM): Hmm. Good point. royw365 (7:15:14 PM): WoT, shannara, et al ad nauseum QueenSidhe (7:15:19 PM): I wonder how all the members of SFWA pick the books in the first place. QueenSidhe (7:15:24 PM): There are so many out there. Z0rPr1me (7:15:40 PM): i wonder too QueenSidhe (7:15:51 PM): Ehh. WoT doesn't seem that great. royw365 (7:16:00 PM): maybe their website gives the criteria Z0rPr1me (7:16:08 PM): author reputation, sales and mb a little help from publisher. QueenSidhe (7:16:09 PM): I can't remember a thing about what I read besides the cover art. QueenSidhe (7:16:21 PM): And I never went on to read past the thrid book. royw365 (7:16:33 PM): i agree vickie, but there are thousands who disagree, otherwise it wouldnt sell so much Z0rPr1me (7:16:48 PM): heh QueenSidhe (7:17:10 PM): If it had grabbed me, I would have remembered something besides the art work, which the author didn't do in the first place. royw365 (7:18:01 PM): ahh, youre saying you judge a book by its cover QueenSidhe (7:18:22 PM): I've heard some comments from people who used to, and maybe still do, read WoT that Jordan is stuck in a rut and is only writing them because they sell now. ($$$) QueenSidhe (7:18:39 PM): No, I'm saying all I can remember of WoT is the cover art. royw365 (7:18:42 PM): lol, would you blame him if it were true? royw365 (7:18:52 PM): i was only teasing vickie QueenSidhe (7:19:10 PM): Most of the time, I don't even look at cover art after I pick up the book. QueenSidhe (7:19:28 PM): So that must imply something really bad about WoT, doesn't it? royw365 (7:19:35 PM): hehe, the cover art is usually facing away from me too QueenSidhe (7:19:40 PM): :-) Z0rPr1me (7:19:51 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (7:20:20 PM): Vickie, you liked Dragonflight? Z0rPr1me (7:20:54 PM): and both of you, what did you like about the book ? Also what was it that made it a bad book or a good book. royw365 (7:21:44 PM): i thought lessa and f'lar both were well written QueenSidhe (7:21:58 PM): I liked it when i first read it. Z0rPr1me (7:22:36 PM): I had problems with f'lar royw365 (7:22:58 PM): and i loved how headstrong she was, once she had an idea, a jackhammer couldnt knock it loose QueenSidhe (7:23:09 PM): Now, I like it as okay, but there are others in the Pern universe I like better. Z0rPr1me (7:23:20 PM): for me it looks like he was too selfish.. royw365 (7:23:28 PM): really? royw365 (7:23:42 PM): i thought he was more arrogant than anything else QueenSidhe (7:23:42 PM): He was too reticient. Z0rPr1me (7:23:56 PM): yeah.... made me think of stupid people i hate in highschool :-) QueenSidhe (7:24:03 PM): lol royw365 (7:24:03 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (7:24:23 PM): selfish, arrogant, reticient... he was evil... hehehe royw365 (7:24:49 PM): made him a good weyrleader though QueenSidhe (7:24:58 PM): I liked Lessa's headstrongness and her power, but I also couldn't help comparing her to how she is later in the series. royw365 (7:24:59 PM): much better than r'gul QueenSidhe (7:25:11 PM): Also, in this book, I can't picture her as short. royw365 (7:25:16 PM): f'nor was prolly my favorite character overall Z0rPr1me (7:25:52 PM): f'nor is cool. QueenSidhe (7:26:03 PM): Yeah. And it gets even better in Dragonquest. QueenSidhe (7:26:14 PM): Since that one is about F'nor, mostly. QueenSidhe (7:26:21 PM): or partly. royw365 (7:26:28 PM): really? i havent read the series in so long i can barely remember the broad outlines Z0rPr1me (7:26:32 PM): for me there was no character that I can say I liked them... thats why I think I didnt start second book. QueenSidhe (7:26:46 PM): It's about half or a little over half about F'nor. Z0rPr1me (7:27:01 PM): cool... might get me into the book :-) royw365 (7:27:14 PM): lol, i see that pile growing QueenSidhe (7:27:18 PM): :-) QueenSidhe (7:27:43 PM): I can see that. I don't think in Dragonflight Lessa and F'lar are really lovable characters. royw365 (7:28:06 PM): no, but they are definitely right for each other QueenSidhe (7:28:11 PM): Yup. Z0rPr1me (7:28:13 PM): Dragonflight is short stories put together.. or something like that ? QueenSidhe (7:28:25 PM): It started out as a novella, I think. royw365 (7:28:31 PM): started as novella QueenSidhe (7:28:32 PM): Then Anne expanded it into a novel. Z0rPr1me (7:28:40 PM): k Z0rPr1me (7:28:59 PM): I would have like more explanation of the threads. Z0rPr1me (7:29:06 PM): i guess its in the other books royw365 (7:29:09 PM): that comes later if i remember right QueenSidhe (7:29:14 PM): I actually liked the Harperhall series better. But that might be because that's where I started from. QueenSidhe (7:29:28 PM): You get a good explaination in Dragonsdawn, I think. royw365 (7:29:35 PM): thats the second series in pern im gonna read QueenSidhe (7:29:44 PM): That's the one about how humans first got there. And how the dragons came to be. Z0rPr1me (7:29:52 PM): cool QueenSidhe (7:30:48 PM): How much of the series have you read, Roy? royw365 (7:30:55 PM): wow Z0rPr1me (7:30:58 PM): It would have been nice to have that series on the tv tho. there is sooooo much fantasy and sci-fi crap out there. royw365 (7:31:09 PM): pretty much all except for any written in the last 5 years or so QueenSidhe (7:31:28 PM): Mmm. WB shot down the tv series. Z0rPr1me (7:31:40 PM): Anyway, I should read others book right ? Z0rPr1me (7:31:43 PM): Damn WB! royw365 (7:31:44 PM): i think a movie based on this series would have been much better than harry potter Z0rPr1me (7:31:45 PM): :-) QueenSidhe (7:31:47 PM): It was supposed to be out this year, I think. Z0rPr1me (7:31:52 PM): yep QueenSidhe (7:32:04 PM): Yes, you should. Z0rPr1me (7:32:08 PM): doh laggin...... :-( QueenSidhe (7:32:11 PM): And Anne's other stuff. QueenSidhe (7:32:25 PM): I don't think you could cover everything in one movie. royw365 (7:32:35 PM): prolly not QueenSidhe (7:32:40 PM): There's too much stuff and you'd only be able to focus on one book. Z0rPr1me (7:32:46 PM): they cant cover one book in one movie so.... Z0rPr1me (7:33:02 PM): tv series is much better IMO... tho small screen sux royw365 (7:33:15 PM): hehe, get a bigger tv QueenSidhe (7:33:21 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (7:33:25 PM): might do that :-) QueenSidhe (7:33:43 PM): You definately have to read The Ship Who Searched, Zor. That's my favorite of Anne's. royw365 (7:33:53 PM): very good book Z0rPr1me (7:33:55 PM): noting royw365 (7:34:13 PM): damia was also very good Z0rPr1me (7:34:15 PM): one more book in the To BUY list :-) QueenSidhe (7:34:18 PM): Crystal Singer series is another one I liked a lot. Z0rPr1me (7:34:30 PM): got that QueenSidhe (7:34:40 PM): Yeah, but you shoud read the Talent series in (partial) order. Z0rPr1me (7:34:50 PM): thats all in pern time ? QueenSidhe (7:35:04 PM): Rowan is about Damia's mother. QueenSidhe (7:35:07 PM): Nope. QueenSidhe (7:35:10 PM): Different series. Z0rPr1me (7:35:13 PM): k royw365 (7:35:15 PM): dunno about crystal singer, i think i read it, but i cant remember it royw365 (7:35:28 PM): rowan was good too QueenSidhe (7:35:49 PM): That's about a singer who wasn't good enough to star, so she went off with a crystal singer. Z0rPr1me (7:35:50 PM): well looks like they were all good. :-) any one was bad ? Z0rPr1me (7:35:56 PM): hehe royw365 (7:36:12 PM): i cant think of any :-) QueenSidhe (7:36:16 PM): She became the best crystal singer living, I think. QueenSidhe (7:36:33 PM): There are some you like better than others, but none really bad. royw365 (7:37:11 PM): nod vickie QueenSidhe (7:37:24 PM): Some you might wish more details on, but you wouldn't stop reading in the middle, IMO. Z0rPr1me (7:37:33 PM): k royw365 (7:37:43 PM): lol, i cant think of any book ive put down in the middle QueenSidhe (7:37:56 PM): Oh, I have. Z0rPr1me (7:37:59 PM): I can think of one. :-) Z0rPr1me (7:38:06 PM): err 2 royw365 (7:38:21 PM): im sure i probably have, i just cant remember it QueenSidhe (7:38:22 PM): Either stopped reading or skipped to see what happens at the end because the middle was boring. Z0rPr1me (7:38:26 PM): but not in pern series :-) since I only read one lol QueenSidhe (7:38:34 PM): Or because I'm just too impatient to get to the good stuff. royw365 (7:39:07 PM): there are some books i hated reading - way too much unimportant detail really bores me QueenSidhe (7:40:13 PM): 5 pages of pointless description? QueenSidhe (7:40:18 PM): I hate those. royw365 (7:40:21 PM): nod Z0rPr1me (7:40:27 PM): lol QueenSidhe (7:40:36 PM): It just makes me skip the descriptions and move on to the action. royw365 (7:40:38 PM): mainly older books where the author was paid by the word QueenSidhe (7:40:39 PM): Or dialog. Z0rPr1me (7:40:51 PM): SOT is like that... he describe EVERYTHING! QueenSidhe (7:41:10 PM): Who? royw365 (7:41:11 PM): lol, i was thinking more hemingway personally royw365 (7:41:16 PM): sword of truth QueenSidhe (7:41:19 PM): Ah. QueenSidhe (7:41:35 PM): That's why I've pretty much given up on epic fantasy. QueenSidhe (7:41:44 PM): Can't stand it anymore. royw365 (7:42:05 PM): thats why i wont start WoT QueenSidhe (7:42:09 PM): I look at those huge books and walk right past it. Z0rPr1me (7:42:14 PM): hehe royw365 (7:42:28 PM): exactly QueenSidhe (7:42:42 PM): I think the first three weren't bad. Z0rPr1me (7:42:43 PM): its fun once in a while... QueenSidhe (7:42:58 PM): But I didn't reread them and the fourth wasn't out at the time. QueenSidhe (7:43:01 PM): And I never went back. royw365 (7:43:04 PM): once every 3-4 years i guess would be ok QueenSidhe (7:43:51 PM): Although, I heard the eighth book was huge, confusing like the muddle the main character was in, and timewise, was just one day. royw365 (7:44:04 PM): YIKES Z0rPr1me (7:44:09 PM): what book? QueenSidhe (7:44:12 PM): WoT Z0rPr1me (7:44:17 PM): oh QueenSidhe (7:44:28 PM): It's the one day part that I really don't like. QueenSidhe (7:44:52 PM): You have a 500 odd page book and you can say that much about one day?!? Z0rPr1me (7:44:54 PM): heh royw365 (7:44:55 PM): it shouldnt take longer to read than the amount of time taken up in the story Z0rPr1me (7:45:28 PM): agree QueenSidhe (7:46:15 PM): Well, there's nothing like that in Pern. royw365 (7:46:20 PM): btw vickie, im really enjoying aardwolf Z0rPr1me (7:46:22 PM): 300 pages book = nice and perfect. QueenSidhe (7:46:26 PM): Cool. Z0rPr1me (7:46:47 PM): Do they delete character after a time period? QueenSidhe (7:46:57 PM): Yes, depending on what level you are. royw365 (7:46:58 PM): i hope not, i hate pwipes QueenSidhe (7:47:08 PM): Your character is still here. Z0rPr1me (7:47:19 PM): been 2-3 weeks since I've been there. Z0rPr1me (7:47:25 PM): roger... i gotta get back there. royw365 (7:47:25 PM): but if they delete it, how is it there? royw365 (7:47:40 PM): ahh, i see what you mean Z0rPr1me (7:47:45 PM): I need more time... stupid work taking all my free time these days.... royw365 (7:47:57 PM): i was thinking just random pwipes every few months or so Z0rPr1me (7:48:27 PM): vickie you got yer handheld? QueenSidhe (7:48:32 PM): Once you're past lvl 10, you have 6 months to get back before you are nuked. QueenSidhe (7:48:36 PM): Nope. Z0rPr1me (7:48:45 PM): doh! QueenSidhe (7:48:51 PM): I know!! royw365 (7:49:00 PM): hehe, i made that in one evening QueenSidhe (7:49:26 PM): Nevermind!! QueenSidhe (7:49:28 PM): It's here. Z0rPr1me (7:49:29 PM): you rules... I made that in 1 week. QueenSidhe (7:49:31 PM): Came in today. Z0rPr1me (7:49:35 PM): wow! Z0rPr1me (7:49:41 PM): thats cool :-) royw365 (7:49:55 PM): good deal vickie, now im gonna have to get one :-( QueenSidhe (7:49:58 PM): I got home today and went straight for here. QueenSidhe (7:50:10 PM): Let me open it and check it out. royw365 (7:51:37 PM): hehe, and all i got today was a new cell phone Z0rPr1me (7:52:28 PM): all i got today was a credit card bill!!!! royw365 (7:52:35 PM): lol QueenSidhe (7:52:36 PM): lol royw365 (7:53:05 PM): from all the books in your tbr pile? Z0rPr1me (7:53:17 PM): lol.... they already paid :-) QueenSidhe (7:53:38 PM): So many boxes.... Z0rPr1me (7:53:43 PM): hehe royw365 (7:54:04 PM): dont forget to read the manual vickie! QueenSidhe (7:54:10 PM): Yup. Z0rPr1me (7:54:22 PM): talk about something boring :-) royw365 (7:54:27 PM): lol QueenSidhe (7:54:28 PM): Has that new smell to it. :-) Z0rPr1me (7:54:36 PM): useless description... no action!!! royw365 (7:54:38 PM): those dont count as books you know Z0rPr1me (7:54:43 PM): oh Z0rPr1me (7:54:45 PM): ok Z0rPr1me (7:54:47 PM): :-) royw365 (7:55:09 PM): luckily royw365 (7:55:25 PM): since i usually skip reading them except for the parts i cant figure out on my own Z0rPr1me (7:55:53 PM): same here Z0rPr1me (7:56:15 PM): I read it in english then in french... the traduction is always funny... royw365 (7:56:19 PM): hmm, how do i get the voice activation to work? must read just that part of the manual QueenSidhe (7:56:34 PM): What's the battery in one of these supposed to look like? QueenSidhe (7:56:37 PM): Do they come out? Z0rPr1me (7:56:48 PM): mine don't royw365 (7:57:06 PM): yes, and depending on what you have, theyre either round like a watch battery only bigger, or rectangular like a cell QueenSidhe (7:57:06 PM): Ok. As long as I'm not missing something. Z0rPr1me (7:57:16 PM): What model is it? royw365 (7:57:27 PM): some you have to take apart to get to them though QueenSidhe (7:57:28 PM): ipaq 3635 royw365 (7:57:37 PM): which will usually void your warranty QueenSidhe (7:57:43 PM): Comes with a nice case too. Z0rPr1me (7:57:53 PM): you got a charger with that... i dont think that runs on normal battery... must be a lithium thingy royw365 (7:58:00 PM): leave it to the girl to notice the accessories :-) Z0rPr1me (7:58:06 PM): lol royw365 (7:58:33 PM): just kidding vickie QueenSidhe (7:58:45 PM): :-) QueenSidhe (7:59:49 PM): This is a bit weird. royw365 (7:59:55 PM): whats that? QueenSidhe (7:59:57 PM): I can't seem to find the slot for the stylus. royw365 (8:00:16 PM): could be a hole on one of the corners QueenSidhe (8:00:35 PM): Oh! royw365 (8:00:42 PM): find it? QueenSidhe (8:00:52 PM): I get two and I need to push a button to get it out, royw365 (8:00:59 PM): lol QueenSidhe (8:01:25 PM): Well, at first I was pushing the stylus instead of the button. Z0rPr1me (8:01:26 PM): heh royw365 (8:01:33 PM): hehe QueenSidhe (8:01:43 PM): And it's not like the palms and visors I've seen where you remove it manually. royw365 (8:03:10 PM): nod Z0rPr1me (8:03:13 PM): its a lithium battery that power that baby! Z0rPr1me (8:03:40 PM): 200Mhz! nice royw365 (8:03:42 PM): i like the ones that recharge when you dock it with the cradle plugged into the pc Z0rPr1me (8:03:52 PM): thats one of them Roy royw365 (8:04:00 PM): yay! royw365 (8:04:10 PM): thats my fav QueenSidhe (8:05:19 PM): I bought it from Y3K Digital from a link on Yahoo shopping. Z0rPr1me (8:05:28 PM): So now vickie has ton of handheld space for ebooks :-) QueenSidhe (8:05:33 PM): $150 rebate => $300 total cost. Z0rPr1me (8:05:37 PM): nice QueenSidhe (8:05:38 PM): yup. QueenSidhe (8:05:42 PM): =) QueenSidhe (8:05:49 PM): More webscriptions. Z0rPr1me (8:05:54 PM): heh royw365 (8:05:55 PM): lol, im gonna have to get one just for the ebooks QueenSidhe (8:06:07 PM): And save on home electricity since I don't need a light anymore royw365 (8:06:20 PM): hehe Z0rPr1me (8:06:24 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (8:06:39 PM): well you need to charge the battery :-) QueenSidhe (8:06:52 PM): Ohhh. royw365 (8:06:59 PM): doh, no reading for vickie tonight QueenSidhe (8:07:00 PM): It's on and there's sound Z0rPr1me (8:07:49 PM): heh royw365 (8:08:15 PM): dont tell me it reads to you as well? QueenSidhe (8:08:16 PM): Hmm. QueenSidhe (8:08:20 PM): This is no good. royw365 (8:08:30 PM): uh oh QueenSidhe (8:08:32 PM): I don't have a free AC outlet near my comp. royw365 (8:08:38 PM): rofl royw365 (8:08:53 PM): how many things do you have plugged into your surge protector? QueenSidhe (8:10:19 PM): Computer, monitor, scanner, sound system. royw365 (8:10:34 PM): that should leave you with 2 slots :-) QueenSidhe (8:10:41 PM): Nope, one. QueenSidhe (8:10:52 PM): And that's not enough room for the plug. QueenSidhe (8:11:00 PM): It's one of those big square ones. royw365 (8:11:08 PM): doh QueenSidhe (8:11:13 PM): But it only needs to charge for three hours. QueenSidhe (8:11:19 PM): No biggie at the moment. QueenSidhe (8:11:29 PM): I still need to install sw on my comp to synch. Z0rPr1me (8:11:46 PM): rofl.. QueenSidhe (8:11:56 PM): I just need to turn off the comp and move the power strip to the top AC slot. royw365 (8:12:06 PM): hehe QueenSidhe (8:13:26 PM): Hey, I don't even have to charge it! QueenSidhe (8:13:32 PM): It's already charged. royw365 (8:13:41 PM): not fully though QueenSidhe (8:13:59 PM): Oh. QueenSidhe (8:14:02 PM): Nevermind. QueenSidhe (8:14:08 PM): I read the instructions wrong. QueenSidhe (8:14:19 PM): It's charging correctly when flashing amber, which it is doing. QueenSidhe (8:14:29 PM): I thought it would be done when it flashes amber. royw365 (8:14:40 PM): hehe royw365 (8:15:06 PM): well, its my dinner time, have fun with your new toy royw365 (8:15:11 PM): nite all royw365 (8:15:19 PM): i might be on the mud later though QueenSidhe (8:15:30 PM): Night! QueenSidhe (8:15:34 PM): k. (8:15:39 PM) royw365 has left the room. QueenSidhe (8:16:00 PM): This is going to be so much fun! :-) Z0rPr1me (8:16:33 PM): it will :-) Z0rPr1me (8:17:00 PM): well... i'll go sleep.... my eyes are closing without any help... later! QueenSidhe (8:17:19 PM): Night! (8:17:23 PM) Z0rPr1me has left the room. |