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Baileyslave (6:37:54 PM): I have a whole stack of books to nominate - so I'll let you pare them down to the required maximum
QueenSidhe (6:38:15 PM): There's no required max. Baileyslave (6:38:21 PM): get a job at Locus and you'll be set QueenSidhe (6:38:26 PM): Just a reasonable number and readally available. QueenSidhe (6:38:36 PM): readily Baileyslave (6:38:52 PM): I always check Amazon ... and go to Borders Baileyslave (6:39:13 PM): I thn k Darwin's Radio would be good - but not sure if its in pb QueenSidhe (6:39:24 PM): This time around there's no nom limit and I'm raising the number of votes. QueenSidhe (6:39:37 PM): So we'll hoefully get more than 2 books chosen. Baileyslave (6:39:41 PM): course I think we should just read rest of Belisarius! QueenSidhe (6:39:47 PM): =) QueenSidhe (6:39:50 PM): Did you finish it? Baileyslave (6:39:59 PM): almost - its really good QueenSidhe (6:40:03 PM): And we still have to wait for book 6. Baileyslave (6:40:09 PM): I like all the history QueenSidhe (6:40:09 PM): But we can read each one together. QueenSidhe (6:40:16 PM): Yeah. Baileyslave (6:40:19 PM): is ^ the end? Baileyslave (6:40:22 PM): 6 QueenSidhe (6:40:29 PM): I was reading it during the open chat. QueenSidhe (6:40:30 PM): Yes. Baileyslave (6:40:35 PM): boo QueenSidhe (6:40:35 PM): Dance of Time. Baileyslave (6:40:45 PM): hav eyou read Telzey Amberdon? QueenSidhe (6:41:03 PM): Part of it. Baileyslave (6:41:04 PM): does Rou come back? QueenSidhe (6:41:10 PM): I bought it in webscriptions format. QueenSidhe (6:41:16 PM): Rou? QueenSidhe (6:41:22 PM): In The Lion Game? Baileyslave (6:41:42 PM): the slave in B's vision in Oblique QueenSidhe (6:41:59 PM): By the time I got to the last story (Lion Game) I didn't like it much anymore, so stopped. Baileyslave (6:42:06 PM): oh no! QueenSidhe (6:42:14 PM): Come back how? Baileyslave (6:42:15 PM): I want to like all 4 QueenSidhe (6:42:21 PM): He's in the series for a while. Baileyslave (6:42:29 PM): in first book? Baileyslave (6:42:36 PM): he jumps into molten gold QueenSidhe (6:42:41 PM): Oh. QueenSidhe (6:42:53 PM): Yes, you see him again later in the first book. QueenSidhe (6:42:58 PM): What chapter are you on? Baileyslave (6:42:59 PM): I like how it has eastern and roman terms in it QueenSidhe (6:43:05 PM): And do you have the paper or ebook? Baileyslave (6:43:40 PM): 19 or 20 - the book of course - Baileyslave (6:43:50 PM): I always pay for the freebies! QueenSidhe (6:43:55 PM): You haven't met him yet? (6:44:11 PM) Z0rPr1me has entered the room. QueenSidhe (6:44:16 PM): Well, In the HEart of Darkness (2nd book) is also free. QueenSidhe (6:44:17 PM): Hi Zor. Baileyslave (6:44:19 PM): nope - but I may not be paying attention - I want to hear more about antonina Z0rPr1me (6:44:24 PM): hello QueenSidhe (6:44:32 PM): Let me check. Baileyslave (6:44:35 PM): hey are we chatting in here? QueenSidhe (6:44:44 PM): I'm on Chapter 12 at the moment. Baileyslave (6:44:54 PM): I bought them all in pb Baileyslave (6:45:37 PM): 12 - thts B, Sittas, and the emporer QueenSidhe (6:45:57 PM): You'll see Rao again in chapter 22. Z0rPr1me (6:46:22 PM): did i missed something ? :-) Baileyslave (6:46:41 PM): Shaka princess was in earlier QueenSidhe (6:46:53 PM): Jeff was wondering if we'd see Rao again after he'd jumped into the vat of gold. Baileyslave (6:47:00 PM): we're starting early Zor! Z0rPr1me (6:47:10 PM): hehe Baileyslave (6:47:34 PM): did yo read this before Queen? Z0rPr1me (6:47:40 PM): when did he jumped? QueenSidhe (6:47:44 PM): You have to remember Jeff, that what Belisarius saw were visions of the possible future. QueenSidhe (6:47:54 PM): Yes. Baileyslave (6:47:55 PM): in Belisarius' vision in early chapter QueenSidhe (6:47:58 PM): Rereading it today. QueenSidhe (6:48:05 PM): Didn't get as far as I thought I would. QueenSidhe (6:48:15 PM): Last time, I stayed up all night reading it. Baileyslave (6:48:26 PM): so the whole series takes place over that 30 years? QueenSidhe (6:48:31 PM): Nope. Baileyslave (6:48:35 PM): i did that last nite Z0rPr1me (6:48:41 PM): ok. thought i missed something again :-) QueenSidhe (6:48:48 PM): The way it works is that our history is one future. Baileyslave (6:48:59 PM): oh no! not Paratime! QueenSidhe (6:49:10 PM): Somehow (you'll learn later) that was changed to the history that Belisarius saw in his visions. QueenSidhe (6:49:20 PM): Now they're making a whole different future. QueenSidhe (6:49:30 PM): It can actually be kind of confusing. QueenSidhe (6:49:43 PM): Flint and Drake never go into explaining the paradoxes. QueenSidhe (6:49:48 PM): Flint admitted that.v Baileyslave (6:49:49 PM): thats good - no skin figures of Antonina and Photius ugh Z0rPr1me (6:49:55 PM): currently reading dragonflight... seems interesting. QueenSidhe (6:50:15 PM): Nope. Somethings are guarenteed. Baileyslave (6:50:16 PM): 1st Maccaffrey pern book? Z0rPr1me (6:50:27 PM): yep QueenSidhe (6:50:27 PM): 1) Bel and Antonia survive the battle. QueenSidhe (6:50:58 PM): 2) Menander also survives. Baileyslave (6:51:01 PM): one of you r "bargain" books QueenSidhe (6:51:21 PM): Can't remember if anything else is guarenteed. Z0rPr1me (6:51:24 PM): hehe exactly. i received my 19 McCaffrey books yesterday :-) Baileyslave (6:51:26 PM): Valentinaian and Anastasius? QueenSidhe (6:51:41 PM): Probably, but I don't know. Baileyslave (6:51:43 PM): and thats not a complete set? Z0rPr1me (6:51:44 PM): spoiler alert? QueenSidhe (6:51:52 PM): No. Z0rPr1me (6:51:54 PM): jeff - nope. QueenSidhe (6:52:01 PM): No spoiler. Z0rPr1me (6:52:05 PM): k Baileyslave (6:52:18 PM): wait - who the heck could kill them? Z0rPr1me (6:52:19 PM): An Oblique Approach was good. QueenSidhe (6:52:20 PM): Well, it is if you don't think Bel and Antonia survive. Z0rPr1me (6:52:29 PM): hehehe QueenSidhe (6:52:30 PM): Flint said they would, QueenSidhe (6:52:45 PM): #2 was stated in the book. QueenSidhe (6:52:59 PM): With one other guy, I think. Can't remember the name,. QueenSidhe (6:53:13 PM): One of the sware. QueenSidhe (6:53:43 PM): Oh, Zor. I found the page where you got the trivia answer from. QueenSidhe (6:53:45 PM): =D Z0rPr1me (6:54:01 PM): hehehe Baileyslave (6:54:19 PM): did you find a reference source to define the eastern terms? Baileyslave (6:54:30 PM): oris there a glossary in later books? QueenSidhe (6:54:31 PM): No, I didn't. QueenSidhe (6:54:33 PM): Did you? Z0rPr1me (6:54:33 PM): I hadnt time to read the book tonight so... i went searching on google.com :-) QueenSidhe (6:54:46 PM): Let me check. QueenSidhe (6:54:55 PM): But I don't remember a glossory. Baileyslave (6:55:10 PM): no - but I am intrigued with all the terms - I know karma and dharma, but what isan asura? Baileyslave (6:55:36 PM): gotta get out my Zen books QueenSidhe (6:55:43 PM): What's dharma? Baileyslave (6:55:57 PM): dharma is the good works you do i na life Baileyslave (6:56:19 PM): which is weighed against the bad, or karma to determine you r next incarnation Z0rPr1me (6:56:25 PM): there is another one... nostra nogusta or something like that QueenSidhe (6:56:56 PM): negusa nagast? Z0rPr1me (6:57:07 PM): hehehe probably that :-) Baileyslave (6:57:09 PM): a perfect dharma would lead to nirvana... or final incarnation QueenSidhe (6:57:13 PM): That means King of kings. Z0rPr1me (6:57:18 PM): ah! Z0rPr1me (6:57:21 PM): thanks. QueenSidhe (6:57:34 PM): That term is explained by Theodora. Baileyslave (6:57:58 PM): I found myself reading the book out loud just to try and say the names! QueenSidhe (6:58:09 PM): =) Baileyslave (6:58:11 PM): like hectartaonarch QueenSidhe (6:58:28 PM): tongue twisting words. Baileyslave (6:58:30 PM): thank go I know some Latin Z0rPr1me (6:58:30 PM): hehe Baileyslave (6:58:48 PM): Venandaakarta QueenSidhe (6:58:49 PM): I just gloss over it. Z0rPr1me (6:59:08 PM): oh that one was nice to yell :-) QueenSidhe (6:59:13 PM): Depending. QueenSidhe (6:59:21 PM): Eh. Save yourself the trouble. Baileyslave (6:59:22 PM): Its a holdover from reading the Redwall books Z0rPr1me (6:59:25 PM): Sakantutara... rofl QueenSidhe (6:59:25 PM): Just call him the vile one. Z0rPr1me (6:59:29 PM): what a cute name Z0rPr1me (6:59:41 PM): i mispelled again Baileyslave (6:59:56 PM): but with these names, who'd know, Zor Z0rPr1me (7:00:22 PM): Now I'm reading about F'nor and F'lar!! damn there is always wierd names Baileyslave (7:00:41 PM): thats sci fi Z0rPr1me (7:00:43 PM): How they find those names?!? QueenSidhe (7:01:00 PM): The way it works is that they had longer names. QueenSidhe (7:01:20 PM): but when they impressed their dragons, the names are shortened, as an honorific. Z0rPr1me (7:01:22 PM): Vickie, about that chat with Lois... was it scifi.com that arranged that chat or bean? Z0rPr1me (7:01:46 PM): Is that explained somewhere in the books? Baileyslave (7:01:54 PM): hey - where are the pix of Queen and Flint? I forgot about that! Z0rPr1me (7:01:59 PM): Or maybe I just read too quick QueenSidhe (7:02:09 PM): e.g.) Kavan => K'van Baileyslave (7:02:22 PM): (excuse the synaptic outburst) Z0rPr1me (7:02:29 PM): hehehe QueenSidhe (7:02:38 PM): The chat was by scifi.com QueenSidhe (7:02:43 PM): I didn't bring a camera. Z0rPr1me (7:02:52 PM): the chat was at 9:30 or is at 10? QueenSidhe (7:03:02 PM): 10 Z0rPr1me (7:03:05 PM): chat about the book we just read that is Baileyslave (7:03:13 PM): but someone said there were fotos of you QueenSidhe (7:03:14 PM): But we were also here for the open chat, which was at 8. QueenSidhe (7:03:20 PM): They did? QueenSidhe (7:03:22 PM): Who? QueenSidhe (7:03:23 PM): When? QueenSidhe (7:03:28 PM): Where? Baileyslave (7:03:37 PM): Kelvin gave us a website last time - and I lost it QueenSidhe (7:03:43 PM): And Jeff and I stayed in here sicne. Z0rPr1me (7:03:49 PM): k Baileyslave (7:03:51 PM): we're big talkers Z0rPr1me (7:03:57 PM): heh Baileyslave (7:04:01 PM): are we moseying on over Baileyslave (7:04:46 PM): or are we it for SFFD chat? QueenSidhe (7:05:05 PM): Here are the pics that were taken by someone else at the pot luck w/ Flint. QueenSidhe (7:05:13 PM): http://www.wizpen.com/baen/ericpotluck/ Baileyslave (7:05:29 PM): I going to look - let me know if we are relocating (7:05:38 PM) KWM01 has entered the room. QueenSidhe (7:05:42 PM): HI Kelvin. QueenSidhe (7:05:45 PM): Moseying on over where? KWM01 (7:05:50 PM): hi everyone Z0rPr1me (7:06:12 PM): heya Kelvin QueenSidhe (7:07:18 PM): How are you doing Kelvin? KWM01 (7:07:31 PM): tired but ok QueenSidhe (7:07:35 PM): I think Jeff is off looking at pics. QueenSidhe (7:07:57 PM): brb. I want to get a drink. Z0rPr1me (7:08:02 PM): Roy on vacation ? or computer broken? Z0rPr1me (7:08:33 PM): Anyone gonna go see Planet of the Apes remake? (7:08:39 PM) bashir325 has entered the room. bashir325 (7:08:58 PM): hi all Baileyslave (7:09:11 PM): I forgot to go see the photos of Vickie rubbing elbows with celebrity Baileyslave (7:09:21 PM): so I used the link tosnoop KWM01 (7:09:44 PM): hey roy Baileyslave (7:09:45 PM): hi folks Baileyslave (7:09:51 PM): we started early QueenSidhe (7:09:55 PM): Hi Roy. Baileyslave (7:10:05 PM): is the computer better? Z0rPr1me (7:10:14 PM): hey Roy! bashir325 (7:10:16 PM): doh. i forgot to send email :-( QueenSidhe (7:10:24 PM): What email? bashir325 (7:10:28 PM): yeah, it seems to be more stable now bashir325 (7:10:46 PM): chapter 1 to kwm KWM01 (7:10:54 PM): :-), 'sallright QueenSidhe (7:10:56 PM): Before we start, I'd like to make sure everyone knows the time for nominations has started. Z0rPr1me (7:11:09 PM): Yep. KWM01 (7:11:11 PM): yup QueenSidhe (7:11:15 PM): They'll be from now until Sunday. Z0rPr1me (7:11:17 PM): I have 19 books to nominate! :-) bashir325 (7:11:17 PM): yes'm Z0rPr1me (7:11:19 PM): jk QueenSidhe (7:11:24 PM): Then voting on Monday until Thursday. QueenSidhe (7:11:29 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (7:11:43 PM): Anyone in a McCaffrey mood? bashir325 (7:11:47 PM): is there a limit on # of books tha can be nominated? QueenSidhe (7:11:50 PM): So we won't have anyone missing out because they found out too late like last time. QueenSidhe (7:12:04 PM): No, but keep it reasonable. QueenSidhe (7:12:15 PM): We don't want so many that we only have 1 vote for each book. bashir325 (7:12:23 PM): i havent read McCaffrey in a while, sounds good to me Z0rPr1me (7:12:35 PM): yeah. QueenSidhe (7:12:37 PM): And make sure they are available in paper. QueenSidhe (7:12:41 PM): Or free in ebook. bashir325 (7:12:44 PM): snap Z0rPr1me (7:12:52 PM): 5 people nominating 3 books is good IMO. :-) KWM01 (7:13:08 PM): only 3?:-( QueenSidhe (7:13:14 PM): You can nom more. QueenSidhe (7:13:22 PM): And we'll be voting for more this time too. Z0rPr1me (7:13:22 PM): hehehe QueenSidhe (7:13:51 PM): 2 winners is a little too close together, IMO. Z0rPr1me (7:14:00 PM): My font is readable for everyone? QueenSidhe (7:14:04 PM): Yes. bashir325 (7:14:06 PM): yes Z0rPr1me (7:14:11 PM): k thanks. bashir325 (7:14:20 PM): how about top 5 this time? QueenSidhe (7:14:37 PM): Probably something like that. QueenSidhe (7:14:43 PM): Depends on how the ties work out. QueenSidhe (7:14:58 PM): I think last time we had 2 clear winners and something like 7 one voters. QueenSidhe (7:15:21 PM): Maybe a bit exagerated, but you get the idea. bashir325 (7:15:27 PM): nod Z0rPr1me (7:15:49 PM): maybe we try a theme one nomination? Baileyslave (7:15:52 PM): I love being a peon - no adminstrative headaches QueenSidhe (7:15:57 PM): lol. Z0rPr1me (7:16:05 PM): heh KWM01 (7:16:07 PM): :-) bashir325 (7:16:15 PM): what type of theme you have in mind? QueenSidhe (7:16:16 PM): Sure, we can. Z0rPr1me (7:16:25 PM): military sci-fi Baileyslave (7:16:27 PM): hes thinking McCaffrey Z0rPr1me (7:16:41 PM): rpg fantasy. ala D&D Z0rPr1me (7:16:48 PM): Jeff- that too! :-) QueenSidhe (7:17:07 PM): We can post theme suggestions and try it out next time. Z0rPr1me (7:17:13 PM): sure bashir325 (7:17:18 PM): ok, i can attempt that QueenSidhe (7:17:36 PM): Okaay, did everyone have a chance to read the book? Baileyslave (7:17:41 PM): I want a listing od Kelvin's library so I can send him a box to borrow some! Z0rPr1me (7:17:41 PM): Yep! QueenSidhe (7:17:49 PM): lol. Z0rPr1me (7:17:54 PM): heh QueenSidhe (7:17:55 PM): HIs library is HUGE!!! bashir325 (7:17:59 PM): yep, and i have to say i was pleasantly surprised Baileyslave (7:18:00 PM): most of it - I'll finish it tonite about 3 AM QueenSidhe (7:18:14 PM): Why were you surprised, Roy? KWM01 (7:18:31 PM): It not huge, just bigger then vickie's bashir325 (7:18:33 PM): i expected it to be more of a stock scifi story Z0rPr1me (7:18:48 PM): stock sci-fi? Z0rPr1me (7:18:58 PM): excuse my english :-( QueenSidhe (7:18:59 PM): I wouldn't know how to classify it myself. bashir325 (7:19:00 PM): you know, kinda like romance, theyre all pretty much the same Z0rPr1me (7:19:08 PM): ah! Z0rPr1me (7:19:13 PM): thanks roy Baileyslave (7:19:17 PM): hmmm... Vickie's is pretty small right now! QueenSidhe (7:19:23 PM): =) Z0rPr1me (7:19:49 PM): My library is small... getting bigger everyday tho :-) KWM01 (7:20:05 PM): OK, what does everyone consider a huge collection? Z0rPr1me (7:20:16 PM): About the book, I would have thought more fighting... the way he manage to solve the problem... bashir325 (7:20:16 PM): mines somewhere around 2K, not all scifi/fantasy though Baileyslave (7:20:19 PM): mine is large - but I'd still borrow some of Kelvins Z0rPr1me (7:20:21 PM): was interesting for me. Z0rPr1me (7:20:44 PM): 2-3k books is quite huge IMO :-) Baileyslave (7:20:53 PM): my scifi fantasy is about 1500 or so Z0rPr1me (7:20:59 PM): wow Z0rPr1me (7:21:11 PM): Thats my goal.... QueenSidhe (7:21:19 PM): I think I used to have 50-100. Baileyslave (7:21:20 PM): get a bigger apartment! KWM01 (7:21:21 PM): See, mine is only around 1K Z0rPr1me (7:21:22 PM): 1500 sci-fi/fanasy books bashir325 (7:21:22 PM): probably half of mine is scifi/fantasy, about 25% mystery Z0rPr1me (7:21:31 PM): that would be paradise mb Baileyslave (7:21:41 PM): oooohhh - I'll be sending Roy a box, too bashir325 (7:21:46 PM): lol Baileyslave (7:22:05 PM): of course, I have over 2500 romances bashir325 (7:22:05 PM): boxes are cheap, send the postage :-) Baileyslave (7:22:16 PM): self addressed, postage paid Z0rPr1me (7:22:39 PM): back to the book? :-) QueenSidhe (7:22:56 PM): What were you saying about the way Belisarius solved problems, Zor? Z0rPr1me (7:23:19 PM): well... for me to eliminate an enemy, you use force! Z0rPr1me (7:23:43 PM): but Belisarius seems to have use ruse to turns the Vile One's ally against him. or each other ?! Z0rPr1me (7:23:48 PM): Am I wrong? KWM01 (7:23:56 PM): hence the name of the book QueenSidhe (7:24:01 PM): Yup. Baileyslave (7:24:04 PM): uhoh - look where that attitude got Pharas, Zor Z0rPr1me (7:24:17 PM): doh Z0rPr1me (7:24:20 PM): message too long bashir325 (7:24:24 PM): kinda surprised me how intelligent he was Baileyslave (7:24:26 PM): LOL QueenSidhe (7:24:34 PM): Belisarius uses tactics and strategy to get things done. KWM01 (7:24:35 PM): :-) QueenSidhe (7:24:41 PM): Head on doesn't always work. QueenSidhe (7:24:45 PM): You'd just hurt your head. Z0rPr1me (7:24:51 PM): thats what i like about belisarius Baileyslave (7:24:56 PM): he was multidimensional... not just a cookie cutter hero Z0rPr1me (7:25:02 PM): he isnt the typical heroes... IMO bashir325 (7:25:23 PM): i liked how he realized Justinian would be jealous, and would want him out of the way for a while Z0rPr1me (7:25:26 PM): The thing that annoyed me was the use of the word Fuck like in our days. QueenSidhe (7:25:28 PM): And some of the enemy aren't typical either. Z0rPr1me (7:25:37 PM): you think they were using fuck like that in those years? Baileyslave (7:25:51 PM): I'm sure they had an equal term Z0rPr1me (7:25:57 PM): prolly QueenSidhe (7:26:08 PM): Bloody has been used as a swear word for a long time, I think. bashir325 (7:26:15 PM): and, no offense, but the women seemed a bit too involved as well Z0rPr1me (7:26:22 PM): heh QueenSidhe (7:26:35 PM): Maybe. bashir325 (7:26:37 PM): i just dont remember them having that much power from my history lessons Baileyslave (7:26:38 PM): you mean, from ahistorical perspective? Z0rPr1me (7:26:42 PM): But Antonina isn't a normal woman! :-) QueenSidhe (7:26:43 PM): I personally don't know that much about the times. Z0rPr1me (7:26:48 PM): I would like to meet her btw :-) Baileyslave (7:26:49 PM): nor Theodora QueenSidhe (7:27:24 PM): A woman's role might have been equal during the golden years of the Roman Empire. bashir325 (7:27:27 PM): not so much that they were intelligent, or strong women... QueenSidhe (7:27:29 PM): Maybe not. Z0rPr1me (7:27:46 PM): But my favorite is Valentinian!! omg great hero and warrior! bashir325 (7:27:55 PM): jsut that, i didnt think they wouldve had those type of opportunities Z0rPr1me (7:28:30 PM): In gladiator movie, the emperor's sister had power. not that much but she had some. QueenSidhe (7:28:32 PM): But that's only 4 women. Baileyslave (7:28:39 PM): but noble women did wield power - look at I claudius bashir325 (7:28:39 PM): i did like some of the comments they made about enemies QueenSidhe (7:28:44 PM): We don't really know about the rest of society. Z0rPr1me (7:28:58 PM): agrees with vickie bashir325 (7:29:10 PM): agrees Baileyslave (7:29:19 PM): isn't Val. the one who always mumbled under his breath KWM01 (7:29:25 PM): yup QueenSidhe (7:29:26 PM): Those 4 had a lot of power, but it's all behind the scenes to the rest of society. Z0rPr1me (7:29:27 PM): yep bashir325 (7:29:28 PM): yep Z0rPr1me (7:29:34 PM): and the one with a killer look!!!!! QueenSidhe (7:29:36 PM): Except maybe for Theodora. bashir325 (7:29:48 PM): dangerous little weasel...:-) QueenSidhe (7:30:01 PM): Which one was the philosopher? Z0rPr1me (7:30:01 PM): Irene to be a spymaster.... possible? QueenSidhe (7:30:04 PM): Yes. QueenSidhe (7:30:09 PM): Maybe. Z0rPr1me (7:30:22 PM): well its sci-fi rofl jk sorry. QueenSidhe (7:30:27 PM): Assuming people don't notice women lurking around. bashir325 (7:30:32 PM): perhaps, men did tend to say things around women without thinking Z0rPr1me (7:30:53 PM): they could be nice spy QueenSidhe (7:30:59 PM): dumb blonde thinking. Z0rPr1me (7:31:03 PM): heh bashir325 (7:31:13 PM): you said that, not me Z0rPr1me (7:31:19 PM): lol KWM01 (7:31:34 PM): :-) QueenSidhe (7:32:14 PM): :-P Z0rPr1me (7:32:32 PM): Ousanas was great too bashir325 (7:32:33 PM): i think Eon was my fav character though QueenSidhe (7:32:41 PM): But I'm sure women could weasel lots of info by playing that role. Z0rPr1me (7:32:46 PM): Eon ?! intriguing... Baileyslave (7:32:53 PM): 'course we don't know how much influence women had that men didn't record in the history Z0rPr1me (7:33:05 PM): Jeff - true :-) bashir325 (7:33:20 PM): i loved how he complained about having to play the sex addict QueenSidhe (7:33:25 PM): Ousanas was very cool. QueenSidhe (7:33:26 PM): lol. Z0rPr1me (7:33:38 PM): hehe bashir325 (7:33:45 PM): and accused Belisarius of being a hypocrite, because he was faithful QueenSidhe (7:33:46 PM): I guess there's such thing as too much even for young guys. Baileyslave (7:33:49 PM): how many people knew Nancy Reagan ran the White House in our times when Ronnie went downhill Z0rPr1me (7:34:00 PM): lol KWM01 (7:34:07 PM): heh heh bashir325 (7:34:07 PM): or that Hilary did for the last 8 years? Z0rPr1me (7:34:11 PM): I'm not in american politics :-) QueenSidhe (7:34:12 PM): lol Baileyslave (7:34:31 PM): hee hee bashir325 (7:34:36 PM): be glad, be very glad KWM01 (7:34:45 PM): yesss Z0rPr1me (7:34:52 PM): hehe bashir325 (7:35:01 PM): my blood pressure just went up 10 points reading this Baileyslave (7:35:09 PM): now Roy relax bashir325 (7:35:13 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (7:35:14 PM): rofl Baileyslave (7:35:29 PM): keep repeating I am a stable OS QueenSidhe (7:35:48 PM): lol bashir325 (7:35:49 PM): but the only OS i know is Windows-based :-( Baileyslave (7:36:01 PM): no no - think positive thoughts! Z0rPr1me (7:36:07 PM): lol QueenSidhe (7:36:27 PM): Which scene do you guys think was the funniest? bashir325 (7:36:32 PM): which is about as stable as a Gremlin needing a tuneup Baileyslave (7:36:53 PM): Gremlins are still on the road? bashir325 (7:36:55 PM): i liked the one where the enemy is being described... Z0rPr1me (7:37:17 PM): Belisarius and Vile one quarter when Belisarius talked about Kushan (sorry for the spelling). bashir325 (7:37:25 PM): no matter what your plans are, the enemy shows up and 'fucks them up' bashir325 (7:37:32 PM): 'thats why theyre the enemy' Z0rPr1me (7:37:35 PM): yeah that was nice to read :-) QueenSidhe (7:38:37 PM): The first time I read this, I really liked the stirrup scene. Baileyslave (7:38:46 PM): you're just the general, but Maurice is the Maurice bashir325 (7:38:59 PM): i loved that line! QueenSidhe (7:39:13 PM): And today, I couldn't stop grinning at Sittas repeated saying, "You cheated!!" Z0rPr1me (7:39:18 PM): hehe bashir325 (7:39:19 PM): and the mumbling parts were classic Z0rPr1me (7:39:51 PM): another good line was the horse talk. KWM01 (7:39:55 PM): the loved the scene where Eon room is about to be searched bashir325 (7:40:01 PM): 'i hit a cathedral' and 'who decided to put two cathedrals here?' QueenSidhe (7:40:04 PM): That was good to. Baileyslave (7:40:10 PM): for such scary guys, V and A had some funny parts in hte book Z0rPr1me (7:40:19 PM): hehehe bashir325 (7:40:24 PM): get your hand off me bashir325 (7:40:31 PM): i'll cut it off, i swear i will Z0rPr1me (7:40:37 PM): rofl KWM01 (7:40:41 PM): lol bashir325 (7:41:26 PM): although the way they discovered gunpowder was pretty lame QueenSidhe (7:41:40 PM): How did they do that? bashir325 (7:41:49 PM): hmm, lets add some sulphur to the naptha QueenSidhe (7:41:54 PM): I don't remember and I didn't get far enough in my rereading. bashir325 (7:41:54 PM): but that smells bad bashir325 (7:42:01 PM): so put in some carbon bashir325 (7:42:04 PM): too heavy bashir325 (7:42:13 PM): we'll use charcoal then Z0rPr1me (7:42:16 PM): heh bashir325 (7:42:16 PM): sheesh Baileyslave (7:42:27 PM): sounds like Emeril KWM01 (7:42:44 PM): :-) bashir325 (7:42:47 PM): BAM Baileyslave (7:42:52 PM): LOL QueenSidhe (7:42:52 PM): What I didn't like was using current terms for stuff when Belisarius wasn't around to name them for u QueenSidhe (7:42:56 PM): lol, Jeff. QueenSidhe (7:43:03 PM): for us. bashir325 (7:43:06 PM): for example? Z0rPr1me (7:43:24 PM): Another good line IMO: So, the horses are winded, disgruntled and thinking dark thoughts. :-) Z0rPr1me (7:43:32 PM): the rest is so pure fun to read.... bashir325 (7:43:52 PM): yep Baileyslave (7:43:54 PM): that was funny - why don't you just get off me and walk - my legs are tired Z0rPr1me (7:44:01 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (7:44:05 PM): omg that was so good. QueenSidhe (7:44:08 PM): Something for the guns or cannons. Z0rPr1me (7:44:20 PM): I'm re-reading that !!! rofl hilarious!!! QueenSidhe (7:44:27 PM): Can't remember it exactly and I'm not sure if they were mentioned in this book or the next one. QueenSidhe (7:44:35 PM): =) QueenSidhe (7:44:43 PM): Just finished reaidng that part. Baileyslave (7:44:47 PM): onagers and scorpions? QueenSidhe (7:45:12 PM): No, they had that before. bashir325 (7:45:15 PM): think big giant arrows bashir325 (7:45:34 PM): or rather, big giant spears QueenSidhe (7:45:41 PM): Sorta like calling gunpowder when they first invented it. QueenSidhe (7:45:57 PM): Bel didn't know the name at the time and he left for over a year. bashir325 (7:46:10 PM): dont think they called it gunpowder in this one Vickie QueenSidhe (7:46:24 PM): Next book then. QueenSidhe (7:46:30 PM): When they go into the weapons. Baileyslave (7:47:04 PM): I suppose modern terms were less distracting to me than the foreign terms and tonge twister names KWM01 (7:47:15 PM): Some of the names probably came form Aide KWM01 (7:47:23 PM): from Baileyslave (7:47:24 PM): I laughed every time I read chiliarch bashir325 (7:47:36 PM): ok, and just where did Aide come from anyway? QueenSidhe (7:47:38 PM): Actually, using modern language didn't really bother me until one scene in the 5th book. Baileyslave (7:47:38 PM): thinking it was a new item at Mickey D's QueenSidhe (7:47:47 PM): Somewhere in the future. bashir325 (7:48:09 PM): am i missing something, or was this the first in a series? QueenSidhe (7:48:17 PM): Maybe, but for over the first year, Aide wasn't there. And he couldn't really talk. Baileyslave (7:48:18 PM): it is QueenSidhe (7:48:23 PM): First in 6. QueenSidhe (7:48:29 PM): First of six. bashir325 (7:48:34 PM): argh, y'all got me started on a series?!? QueenSidhe (7:48:45 PM): lol. Baileyslave (7:48:47 PM): they're tricky that way, Roy bashir325 (7:48:53 PM): now i have to go get the other 5 Z0rPr1me (7:48:53 PM): hehe QueenSidhe (7:48:56 PM): It's not going to be more than six. QueenSidhe (7:49:07 PM): The second one is available online for free. Baileyslave (7:49:11 PM): but some are free at Baen's website QueenSidhe (7:49:15 PM): So you don't have to copy Jeff and buy it. bashir325 (7:49:20 PM): Baen isnt paying Vickie for plugs are they? j/k Baileyslave (7:49:24 PM): hey - I like books QueenSidhe (7:49:44 PM): Well, you were saying earlier you kept paying for free books. bashir325 (7:49:57 PM): sorry, e-books will never catch on with me, i want a real book i can hold Baileyslave (7:49:59 PM): I do - I can't sit and read a book at computer Baileyslave (7:50:07 PM): I get distracted too easily QueenSidhe (7:50:26 PM): I only get distracted when the book isn't keeping my attention. Baileyslave (7:50:45 PM): you must have a more comfortable chair by your computer QueenSidhe (7:51:03 PM): It's okay. QueenSidhe (7:51:08 PM): I just concentrate on the book. bashir325 (7:51:15 PM): it does away with that time-honored tradition of falling asleep reading KWM01 (7:51:21 PM): I love my laptop. :-) bashir325 (7:51:24 PM): and then dreaming about what you just read QueenSidhe (7:51:26 PM): I had some friends laugh at me for the way I sit in bed while reading. Baileyslave (7:51:33 PM): has anyone read Drake's fantasy series.... and how does it compare to this QueenSidhe (7:51:43 PM): I didn't like it. bashir325 (7:51:49 PM): are you sure they were friends Vickie? QueenSidhe (7:51:51 PM): The first one was good. QueenSidhe (7:51:56 PM): Yes. Baileyslave (7:52:14 PM): so its Flint that makes this book so good? QueenSidhe (7:52:14 PM): Well, I was on my side and mostly looked like I was falling off the bed. KWM01 (7:52:36 PM): Which series by Drake? QueenSidhe (7:52:49 PM): Lord of the Isles. Baileyslave (7:52:53 PM): the new one .... something Isles, Queen of Baileyslave (7:52:58 PM): yeah that one QueenSidhe (7:53:04 PM): The first was good. KWM01 (7:53:10 PM): ahh, haven't read it. QueenSidhe (7:53:21 PM): The later ones I didn't like because I found it implausible. Baileyslave (7:53:27 PM): similar to this or very different? QueenSidhe (7:53:48 PM): According to what I've heard from Flint, the way this series was written was Drake would write Baileyslave (7:53:55 PM): I read TSR books so implausible's OK QueenSidhe (7:54:07 PM): thousands of words for an outline. Then Flint would actually write the book. QueenSidhe (7:54:14 PM): TSR? Baileyslave (7:54:30 PM): Dungeons and Dragons guys bashir325 (7:54:31 PM): the D&D people QueenSidhe (7:54:40 PM): Do you want to know what I found implausible? Baileyslave (7:54:46 PM): sure QueenSidhe (7:55:34 PM): In each book (I've read 3) they group of characters would go their seperate ways, doing whatever. QueenSidhe (7:55:52 PM): Then at the end when the big bad guy threatens, they all somehow come back together. Z0rPr1me (7:56:02 PM): hehe QueenSidhe (7:56:03 PM): The same thing happens every time in the 3 books. Baileyslave (7:56:14 PM): thats the Eddings effect QueenSidhe (7:56:25 PM): Not like Eddings. Baileyslave (7:56:35 PM): his characters do that though QueenSidhe (7:56:40 PM): Or not as obvious or I didn't notice it when I was reading Eddings. QueenSidhe (7:56:41 PM): I liked Eddings. Baileyslave (7:56:45 PM): split into groups then reassemble bashir325 (7:56:50 PM): ive never read him Z0rPr1me (7:56:54 PM): heh QueenSidhe (7:57:02 PM): But I think the reasembly was more planned. Baileyslave (7:57:25 PM): I haven't read Drake so can't compare Baileyslave (7:57:34 PM): will let you know when I do Baileyslave (7:57:53 PM): (I am gonna read some of these books if it kills me) QueenSidhe (7:58:02 PM): What do you think of how Aide was portrayed. QueenSidhe (7:58:15 PM): If I remember correctly, he wasn't in the book at the beginning. QueenSidhe (7:58:25 PM): Flint decided to add him into the story. Z0rPr1me (7:58:40 PM): Aide = Jewel right? :-) QueenSidhe (7:58:44 PM): Yes. Z0rPr1me (7:58:50 PM): yez i got that right!! Z0rPr1me (7:58:52 PM): hehehe Z0rPr1me (7:59:02 PM): I liked it. QueenSidhe (7:59:16 PM): I thought it was interesting portraying him as a child at the beginning. Z0rPr1me (7:59:18 PM): it was funny the way it talked to Belisarius bashir325 (7:59:29 PM): i'll need to read the other five books, so fair Aide hasnt impressed me much Baileyslave (8:00:02 PM): so Drake didn't have the early visions in his outline? Z0rPr1me (8:00:06 PM): I didnt saw it like a child growing.... tho. QueenSidhe (8:00:14 PM): I could really picture the scenes where Aide said "you promised" and calling them stupid. QueenSidhe (8:00:47 PM): I don't think so. QueenSidhe (8:01:09 PM): The fifth book just came out this month in hb. QueenSidhe (8:01:26 PM): Dance of Time I'm not sure if Flint has started on yet. bashir325 (8:01:30 PM): argh, its an incomplete series to boot? Z0rPr1me (8:01:38 PM): heh Baileyslave (8:01:45 PM): it just gets worse and worse bashir325 (8:01:46 PM): thats just evil QueenSidhe (8:01:46 PM): He's busy. QueenSidhe (8:01:51 PM): lol KWM01 (8:02:02 PM): heh Baileyslave (8:02:06 PM): hey, he needs to skip potlucks and write! QueenSidhe (8:02:08 PM): I'll let you know as soon as the snippet start appearing, if you like. Z0rPr1me (8:02:21 PM): Sure! bashir325 (8:02:22 PM): anybody read any of King's The Gunslinger series? QueenSidhe (8:02:41 PM): Actually, I think he's currently working on the 1632 anthology and collab with David Weber. Baileyslave (8:02:45 PM): only a short story in a Legends anthology QueenSidhe (8:02:46 PM): Nope. KWM01 (8:02:58 PM): hey Vickie, have you seen Misty's new snippet QueenSidhe (8:03:02 PM): No. QueenSidhe (8:03:10 PM): Spirits White as Lightning? KWM01 (8:03:17 PM): yup QueenSidhe (8:03:23 PM): Ooh. Cool. QueenSidhe (8:03:27 PM): I'll look later tonight. Baileyslave (8:04:01 PM): aren't Flint, Weber and Ringo working on a book? QueenSidhe (8:04:17 PM): Not that I know of. Z0rPr1me (8:04:20 PM): Well... people... this chat was very interesting.... but I'm feeling sleepy right now. QueenSidhe (8:04:21 PM): Kelvin? QueenSidhe (8:04:26 PM): Night, Zor. Z0rPr1me (8:04:28 PM): So I'll go sleep... later all. bashir325 (8:04:30 PM): nite Baileyslave (8:04:32 PM): hmmmm... I thought I read it in Locus KWM01 (8:04:36 PM): nite (8:04:37 PM) Z0rPr1me has left the room. Baileyslave (8:04:44 PM): bye Zor happy dragons! KWM01 (8:04:45 PM): books QueenSidhe (8:04:51 PM): I know Flint and Weber are working on 1633. KWM01 (8:05:01 PM): mix and match any two QueenSidhe (8:05:07 PM): And Weber and Ringo are working on another series. Baileyslave (8:05:08 PM): hee hee QueenSidhe (8:05:18 PM): But not all three together. KWM01 (8:05:29 PM): yup QueenSidhe (8:05:46 PM): Flint, Freer, and Lackey are doing collabs. QueenSidhe (8:06:07 PM): It sounded like an interesting experience for Flint. KWM01 (8:06:38 PM): so many books to write, so little time QueenSidhe (8:06:44 PM): =D Yeah. QueenSidhe (8:07:03 PM): Plus all the editting he has planned. Baileyslave (8:07:24 PM): make hay while the Baen shines bashir325 (8:07:33 PM): thats ok, maybe i'll have time to get through my to-be-read pile KWM01 (8:08:01 PM): nope, becuase we'll all add to it bashir325 (8:08:06 PM): sigh QueenSidhe (8:08:10 PM): I'm guessing that Dance of Time will be released sometime next summer. Baileyslave (8:08:20 PM): I'd just like to get through my to be nominated pile QueenSidhe (8:08:24 PM): lol. KWM01 (8:08:31 PM): :-) bashir325 (8:08:42 PM): i have to admit, i like Piper's Fuzzy series better than Paratime Baileyslave (8:08:58 PM): I hve that to read Baileyslave (8:09:04 PM): got it from library bashir325 (8:09:25 PM): my to-be-read pile is growing faster than im reading them :-( QueenSidhe (8:09:26 PM): What's it about? Baileyslave (8:09:46 PM): that's normal, Roy bashir325 (8:10:04 PM): a little fuzzy native species on a planet that humans have settled on bashir325 (8:10:15 PM): havent finished it yet :-( KWM01 (8:10:16 PM): man finds fuzzy teddy bear like creature QueenSidhe (8:10:26 PM): My TBR is all mental, so it can grow that fast. I just forget some titles, keeping it at a managable QueenSidhe (8:10:44 PM): size. bashir325 (8:10:44 PM): must be nice, i actually go buy the books Baileyslave (8:10:50 PM): but it screws up the conglomerate's colonization pans QueenSidhe (8:10:59 PM): Nope. No car, too far to walk. No money. bashir325 (8:11:12 PM): youre a student though, right? QueenSidhe (8:11:18 PM): No graduated. QueenSidhe (8:11:21 PM): No job yet. Baileyslave (8:11:24 PM): but 3 huge libraries to borrow from... hint hint bashir325 (8:11:25 PM): nod bashir325 (8:11:30 PM): lol KWM01 (8:11:44 PM): because they're intellegent QueenSidhe (8:11:48 PM): But returning them might be a bit hard until I have a car. Baileyslave (8:12:13 PM): hey, wait till you win big in Vegas! QueenSidhe (8:12:17 PM): lol. (8:12:52 PM) KWM01 has left the room. QueenSidhe (8:13:07 PM): First I'll have to win enough to pay for the plane tickets and the Cirque d'Soile show. Baileyslave (8:13:09 PM): well, I'm running to.... physical therapy i the AM (groan) Baileyslave (8:13:13 PM): take care QueenSidhe (8:13:17 PM): Night. (8:13:21 PM) Baileyslave has left the room. bashir325 (8:13:21 PM): see ya, ouch bashir325 (8:13:38 PM): well, time to eat myself QueenSidhe (8:13:39 PM): They finally figured out what his back problem was. bashir325 (8:13:46 PM): thats good bashir325 (8:13:54 PM): btw, whats the next book again? QueenSidhe (8:13:55 PM): Yes. QueenSidhe (8:14:03 PM): The Practice Effect by David Brin. QueenSidhe (8:14:07 PM): On 8/8 bashir325 (8:14:10 PM): ok QueenSidhe (8:14:27 PM): See you in 2 weeks. QueenSidhe (8:14:30 PM): Or on the boards. bashir325 (8:14:44 PM): i'll post some nominations on the boards later tonight bashir325 (8:14:53 PM): bye |