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Hairy1997 (7:05:44 PM): Bye Vickie Bay Joens (7:05:45 PM): Bye all! Jodijoyous (7:05:46 PM): Have him read some Octavia Butler QueenSidhe (7:05:49 PM): Hi Kelvin. (7:05:49 PM) OlleReadsALot has left the room. (7:05:49 PM) Jillski2 has left the room. bashir325 (7:05:50 PM): bye (7:05:51 PM) Bay Joens has left the room. Z0rPr1me (7:05:51 PM): hi Kelvin KWM01 (7:05:58 PM): hi everyone (7:05:59 PM) Hairy1997 has left the room. Jodijoyous (7:06:04 PM): night everyone Z0rPr1me (7:06:07 PM): night QueenSidhe (7:06:10 PM): Night. (7:06:10 PM) Jodijoyous has left the room. Z0rPr1me (7:06:33 PM): but.... but.... but.... sci-fi is so good why leave!?!?! heheh bashir325 (7:06:33 PM): sigh, i didnt have a chance to pick up the book till last night QueenSidhe (7:06:40 PM): =) Z0rPr1me (7:06:48 PM): Roy - doh bashir325 (7:07:05 PM): its pretty good so far though :-) QueenSidhe (7:07:13 PM): Did you get to start it? QueenSidhe (7:07:20 PM): What story are you on? (7:07:23 PM) Baileyslave has entered the room. QueenSidhe (7:07:27 PM): wb Jeff. Z0rPr1me (7:07:28 PM): Start and didnt finish yep Z0rPr1me (7:07:32 PM): welcome back Jeff KWM01 (7:07:32 PM): hi jeff Baileyslave (7:07:41 PM): hey all bashir325 (7:07:46 PM): i finished He Walked Around the Horses QueenSidhe (7:07:54 PM): I liked that story. QueenSidhe (7:08:01 PM): Although I found it sad too. bashir325 (7:08:07 PM): and started Police Operation Z0rPr1me (7:08:09 PM): Kelvin - I have to congratulates you on your tough questions!! :-) QueenSidhe (7:08:13 PM): =) KWM01 (7:08:21 PM): :-D QueenSidhe (7:08:22 PM): Who's next on the trivia qs/ Z0rPr1me (7:08:24 PM): Mine seems to be.... too easy hehehe QueenSidhe (7:08:26 PM): Jeff? Z0rPr1me (7:08:29 PM): Jeff i think Baileyslave (7:08:31 PM): waht? Baileyslave (7:08:49 PM): did someone get Zors? Z0rPr1me (7:08:58 PM): you did :-) bashir325 (7:09:03 PM): yuck, i see i have a lot of board reading to catch up on now Baileyslave (7:09:15 PM): its all that MUD Z0rPr1me (7:09:15 PM): Time Crime is my favorite right now... bashir325 (7:09:33 PM): dead computer, not much of that either :-( KWM01 (7:09:49 PM): I liked the third story, the one about reincarnation QueenSidhe (7:09:57 PM): That was cool. Baileyslave (7:10:00 PM): eek - cast a Revive spell on it Z0rPr1me (7:10:06 PM): grrrr stupid message limit bashir325 (7:10:07 PM): has anyone read the complete fuzzy? QueenSidhe (7:10:12 PM): I didn't like Police Operation. Baileyslave (7:10:18 PM): yeah, I wish there was a book about Akor-Neb Baileyslave (7:10:30 PM): its in my pile QueenSidhe (7:10:42 PM): Nope. KWM01 (7:10:45 PM): I've read a few stories of Fuzzies but not the compilation QueenSidhe (7:10:51 PM): Let me get the book. brb. bashir325 (7:10:57 PM): oh, queen, i picked up the next st leibowitz book, it has a map in the front of it Z0rPr1me (7:11:33 PM): I liked Police Operation bashir325 (7:11:40 PM): werent you the one asking about where everything was? ( i hope) Baileyslave (7:11:41 PM): 2nd story? Z0rPr1me (7:11:44 PM): I think it was a nice introduction... Z0rPr1me (7:11:47 PM): yep QueenSidhe (7:11:50 PM): Yeah. QueenSidhe (7:12:07 PM): I didn't like the explaination. QueenSidhe (7:12:25 PM): It stopped me from reading the rest of the book for a few months. Z0rPr1me (7:12:26 PM): in Police Operation? Baileyslave (7:12:52 PM): really? I just skimmed that... figured it wasn't vital to plot Z0rPr1me (7:12:52 PM): ::confuse:: QueenSidhe (7:12:55 PM): And when I did go back I still had to read it 2 or 3 times to understand what he was saying. QueenSidhe (7:13:15 PM): The part where he explained how everything worked. Z0rPr1me (7:13:25 PM): you peeps talking about paratime right? QueenSidhe (7:13:30 PM): Yes. Z0rPr1me (7:13:33 PM): sorry my head is pretty slow right now :-) bashir325 (7:13:37 PM): about the levels, belts etc? Z0rPr1me (7:14:03 PM): I'm wonderings on what level we are :-) bashir325 (7:14:13 PM): 4th level QueenSidhe (7:14:23 PM): Probably. Baileyslave (7:14:24 PM): aren't we 4th Euro American bashir325 (7:14:30 PM): my copy has an intro by lester del rey that says that anyway Z0rPr1me (7:14:45 PM): ok bashir325 (7:14:54 PM): sorry, by john f carr rather Z0rPr1me (7:15:32 PM): I dont read introduction... QueenSidhe (7:15:41 PM): lol. KWM01 (7:15:51 PM): me neither QueenSidhe (7:15:51 PM): I read it. It was interesting. Baileyslave (7:15:58 PM): I do Z0rPr1me (7:16:02 PM): mb i should... QueenSidhe (7:16:24 PM): He has a lot of bg info there. Z0rPr1me (7:16:25 PM): I didnt read first story since he says it wasnt really part of Paratime... :-) bashir325 (7:16:26 PM): i usually read intros after ive started the book, hard to understand before ive read it Z0rPr1me (7:16:28 PM): I'm lazy bashir325 (7:16:48 PM): ahh, but it is alluded to in police operation QueenSidhe (7:16:56 PM): I thought the styleit was written in was interesting. QueenSidhe (7:17:13 PM): I've only seen one other author write a short in that manner. Z0rPr1me (7:17:23 PM): yeah... but I dont have a good feeling about the book... dont know why :-( bashir325 (7:17:30 PM): you mean the letters? QueenSidhe (7:17:48 PM): You can also see the similarity to what happened to that guy and Kalvan. bashir325 (7:17:58 PM): theres actually a name for that style, but i forget what it is QueenSidhe (7:18:03 PM): Just accidentally caught in one of those paratime vehicles. Baileyslave (7:18:04 PM): probably better in small chunks years apart QueenSidhe (7:18:15 PM): Yes, letters. Z0rPr1me (7:18:51 PM): Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen good? I mean really good! ? :-) QueenSidhe (7:19:17 PM): It's interesting but I got distracted again half way through. Z0rPr1me (7:19:36 PM): I think I'm in a fantasy mode... right now QueenSidhe (7:20:04 PM): Kalvan is sort of fanasy since he's in a sort of middle ages era. bashir325 (7:20:21 PM): i just finished my historical fiction mode for the next few years, im back to hardcore scifi now Z0rPr1me (7:20:31 PM): I'll give it a try this weekend :-) but Oblique Approach is more interesting for me right now QueenSidhe (7:20:47 PM): Trying to save the pretty princess and her kingdom from the bad priests. Z0rPr1me (7:21:02 PM): I still have 600 pages to finish 2nd sword of truth book :-) QueenSidhe (7:21:03 PM): An Oblique Approach is cool. Not too technical. bashir325 (7:21:03 PM): since i missed the voting, :-(, is the new list up yet? QueenSidhe (7:21:13 PM): Yes. QueenSidhe (7:21:17 PM): It's a short list. QueenSidhe (7:21:36 PM): An Oblique Approach on 7/25 and The Practice EFFECT 8/8 bashir325 (7:21:37 PM): how many books are on it? Z0rPr1me (7:21:41 PM): bad thing... I'll be on vacation the 8/8/2001 :-( Z0rPr1me (7:22:09 PM): I'll start a board discussion anyway :-) QueenSidhe (7:22:14 PM): I'm not sure when I'm going on vacation. QueenSidhe (7:22:19 PM): But it should be on a weekend. bashir325 (7:22:22 PM): bah, china just gave us a $1 million bill for the spy plane Z0rPr1me (7:22:33 PM): heh bashir325 (7:22:57 PM): maybe we should bill them for all the intelligence they got off of it QueenSidhe (7:22:59 PM): Well have another nom and voting session the week of ABA. QueenSidhe (7:23:07 PM): lol Baileyslave (7:23:09 PM): hmmm... I guess we should ask them for all the old parts Z0rPr1me (7:23:21 PM): lol QueenSidhe (7:23:53 PM): What do you think about the possibility of parallel worlds? Z0rPr1me (7:24:09 PM): Jeff - I might need til end of summer to finish the books you sent me. that ok? bashir325 (7:24:17 PM): dangerous question QueenSidhe (7:24:18 PM): And if we could travel to them, would we be so "nice"? Baileyslave (7:24:22 PM): meaning? Z0rPr1me (7:24:26 PM): Vickie - I like it! Baileyslave (7:24:49 PM): no way - look at what Europeans did to Native cultures QueenSidhe (7:25:00 PM): Keeping yourself secret and not using it for all the resources we can get our hands on. bashir325 (7:25:01 PM): well, for me anyway, that question is answered by my belief in God, which gets into religion... QueenSidhe (7:25:08 PM): A mix of Wildside. bashir325 (7:25:38 PM): interesting idea though, i just have to suspend belief in it Baileyslave (7:26:44 PM): its interesting to contrast use of parallel worlds in sci fi and fantasy QueenSidhe (7:26:50 PM): Even Piper's more civilized world had criminals trying to exploit the parallel worlds. Z0rPr1me (7:26:57 PM): yep Baileyslave (7:27:02 PM): in sci fi its about exploitation Z0rPr1me (7:27:10 PM): first you have to get a unified earth me thinks Z0rPr1me (7:27:30 PM): that way you can have a police force to control what goes in and out of those others world Z0rPr1me (7:27:41 PM): but then, the police could get corrupt :-( bashir325 (7:27:51 PM): but on one level, we already have that Baileyslave (7:27:51 PM): but in fantasies, like Feist's Midkemia or Anthony's ? series, its about totla differneces Baileyslave (7:27:58 PM): like magic vs science Z0rPr1me (7:28:06 PM): human arent super nice by definition QueenSidhe (7:28:08 PM): Xanth. QueenSidhe (7:28:33 PM): It would be hard to unite Earth, I'd think. bashir325 (7:28:36 PM): i love Xanth, i just got the latest, now i have to reread the whole series so i know whats going on Baileyslave (7:28:36 PM): no - had one hero who travels between two parallels of one planet Z0rPr1me (7:28:44 PM): Roy what level? QueenSidhe (7:28:47 PM): In sf, the only reason is a superior alien threat. Baileyslave (7:28:47 PM): one with magic and one with science QueenSidhe (7:29:01 PM): Oh. QueenSidhe (7:29:04 PM): The Blue Adept. QueenSidhe (7:29:07 PM): Or whatever. Baileyslave (7:29:08 PM): yes bashir325 (7:29:09 PM): im thinking the Security Council of the UN specifically QueenSidhe (7:29:24 PM): How good are they? bashir325 (7:29:26 PM): the rest of the nations wouldnt necessarily have to be brought into the secret QueenSidhe (7:29:36 PM): And how well do nations listen to the UN? Z0rPr1me (7:29:43 PM): right... but they arent very good or arent doing any great work Baileyslave (7:29:44 PM): ok for firrst three then it gets confsuing bashir325 (7:30:13 PM): no, but they would be able to police who comes in or goes out, without the rest of the world knowing Z0rPr1me (7:30:21 PM): :-) bashir325 (7:30:39 PM): but how would we know Z0r? Z0rPr1me (7:30:51 PM): Canada could in charge of that force rofl... :-) bashir325 (7:30:59 PM): lol QueenSidhe (7:31:02 PM): Having only one gate? bashir325 (7:31:22 PM): who knows how many gates there are? QueenSidhe (7:31:26 PM): But once you have developed the tech, people will try to duplicate or steal it. Z0rPr1me (7:31:38 PM): grrr stupid message lenght limits :-( Z0rPr1me (7:31:59 PM): if nature makes the gates then there is prolly more than one QueenSidhe (7:32:01 PM): You version isn't updated so you just stop typing? bashir325 (7:32:04 PM): you dont think they could keep something that important secret? Z0rPr1me (7:32:19 PM): but if science could make a gate... then why bother making more than one?! Z0rPr1me (7:32:39 PM): Roy - I watch X-Files and I think they can!! :-) bashir325 (7:32:52 PM): lol, i think they could too Z0rPr1me (7:32:56 PM): Trust no one! bashir325 (7:33:08 PM): but the truth IS out there Z0rPr1me (7:33:26 PM): brief change of subject. btw I started watching Voyager. its nice. bashir325 (7:33:39 PM): now that the series is over? QueenSidhe (7:33:44 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (7:33:46 PM): yep :-) Z0rPr1me (7:34:08 PM): I was a DS9 fan. still am :-) and here the shows were on at the same time :-( bashir325 (7:34:20 PM): im trying to get them all episodes of all series on DVD, they just dont release them fast enough Z0rPr1me (7:34:27 PM): btw i'm a smiley freaks... i put smiley everywhere Baileyslave (7:34:28 PM): that's why God invented VCRs KWM01 (7:34:43 PM): lol bashir325 (7:34:45 PM): bah, VCRs suck QueenSidhe (7:34:50 PM): Did you see the new smilies on the boards? QueenSidhe (7:34:58 PM): The blushing one is cute. Z0rPr1me (7:35:02 PM): Jeff - i taped DS9 and watched it :-). couldnt get a friend to tape voyager :-( Baileyslave (7:35:03 PM): blushing smiley bashir325 (7:35:11 PM): tapes degrade, machine eats them, too much trouble Z0rPr1me (7:35:11 PM): hehe Baileyslave (7:35:18 PM): humph...som frends Z0rPr1me (7:35:23 PM): I need to get a dvd QueenSidhe (7:35:23 PM): Plus the commercils. Baileyslave (7:35:26 PM): sooome friends Baileyslave (7:35:38 PM): boy are my fingers screwy tonite Z0rPr1me (7:35:44 PM): hehe bashir325 (7:35:47 PM): i just got a PS2, that way i have it all Baileyslave (7:36:02 PM): waht? no Xbox? bashir325 (7:36:14 PM): !@#$%^ Z0rPr1me (7:36:19 PM): rofl KWM01 (7:36:25 PM): lol Baileyslave (7:36:39 PM): but tell us how yo REALLY feel Roy bashir325 (7:36:39 PM): my computer just crashed and burned, and you want me to trust their game system? Z0rPr1me (7:36:49 PM): lol Baileyslave (7:36:56 PM): no - just askin' QueenSidhe (7:37:00 PM): lol bashir325 (7:37:03 PM): lol KWM01 (7:37:09 PM): heh Z0rPr1me (7:37:10 PM): but you said it was a power surge... :-) bashir325 (7:37:19 PM): this time QueenSidhe (7:37:19 PM): yeah, you did. Z0rPr1me (7:37:23 PM): hehe Baileyslave (7:37:27 PM): ooooh, fried motherboard bashir325 (7:37:29 PM): i have two other paperweights here Z0rPr1me (7:37:58 PM): Roy - you lost your chapter one? Z0rPr1me (7:38:17 PM): and when can we expect Chapter 2 :-) bashir325 (7:38:27 PM): actually, the motherboard was ok, it just corrupted my hard drive, blew my modem and my accelerator Baileyslave (7:38:31 PM): exactly! Baileyslave (7:38:44 PM): that sounds scary! bashir325 (7:38:46 PM): chapter one is safe on a disk bashir325 (7:38:53 PM): floppy disk that is QueenSidhe (7:39:03 PM): That's not all that safe. Z0rPr1me (7:39:07 PM): hehe KWM01 (7:39:17 PM): :-) bashir325 (7:39:17 PM): and chapter 2 will come along when i get some free time bashir325 (7:39:27 PM): its safer than my hard drive apparently QueenSidhe (7:39:33 PM): =) Z0rPr1me (7:39:50 PM): btw I read somewhere that Piper suicided ?... I dont see his sadness in is writings... QueenSidhe (7:40:01 PM): Yes. bashir325 (7:40:09 PM): something about working 80+ hours a week really cuts into free time KWM01 (7:40:10 PM): It was financial QueenSidhe (7:40:13 PM): I think he was having money problems. Z0rPr1me (7:40:21 PM): am i nutz because i search and read is text searching for sadness ? QueenSidhe (7:40:37 PM): And his agent or somebody didn't tell him he was getting any royalties. Z0rPr1me (7:40:46 PM): damn... Z0rPr1me (7:40:52 PM): all that info in the intro ? :-) bashir325 (7:40:52 PM): well yes, but im not sure thats why youre nutz :-) Z0rPr1me (7:40:59 PM): ROFL! Baileyslave (7:41:13 PM): :-P Z0rPr1me (7:41:19 PM): You know canadian are normal human being :-) KWM01 (7:41:36 PM): The tragic thing was that the Check really was in the mail. bashir325 (7:41:40 PM): exactly, thats why theres no jokes about them Z0rPr1me (7:41:51 PM): heh KWM01 (7:42:12 PM): He died two days before a check for 2 grand reached him bashir325 (7:42:13 PM): not that i would make fun of them or anything Z0rPr1me (7:42:25 PM): Kelvin - seriously? bashir325 (7:42:27 PM): thats just sad KWM01 (7:42:30 PM): yup Z0rPr1me (7:42:39 PM): damn... poor Piper. Baileyslave (7:42:39 PM): did he do something else besides write - not a lot of outout for a lifetime of writing Baileyslave (7:42:59 PM): output KWM01 (7:43:10 PM): yeah but he'd losed his job Z0rPr1me (7:43:31 PM): wow... his life was funny i guess. Baileyslave (7:43:36 PM): I wonder if he believed in reincarnation like in the 3rd story QueenSidhe (7:43:37 PM): Too many problems piling on top of him and feeling like no one liked his work, probably. bashir325 (7:43:49 PM): that sounds like my job! Baileyslave (7:44:04 PM): we like the first chapter Roy Z0rPr1me (7:44:13 PM): yep bashir325 (7:44:14 PM): rofl QueenSidhe (7:44:30 PM): But build on the descriptopn. bashir325 (7:44:33 PM): is the check in the mail yet? Baileyslave (7:44:33 PM): though I haven't mailed any checks Z0rPr1me (7:44:40 PM): heh bashir325 (7:45:17 PM): i actually plan on revamping Ch 1 before starting Ch 2, adding more description, etc QueenSidhe (7:45:22 PM): Have you ever heard of the tv series Sliders? Z0rPr1me (7:45:27 PM): yep bashir325 (7:45:30 PM): i loved that series QueenSidhe (7:45:33 PM): Do you think they based part of it on Paratime? Z0rPr1me (7:45:40 PM): Nope bashir325 (7:45:44 PM): but they moved it to the scifi channel, which i dont get :-( Baileyslave (7:46:03 PM): hmmmmmmm, if not, where did they find the idea - what other books? bashir325 (7:46:15 PM): what about Quantum Leap? perhaps a bit of paratime there? QueenSidhe (7:46:15 PM): Is it still going on? bashir325 (7:46:28 PM): no, i think its been cancelled QueenSidhe (7:46:31 PM): Or is scfi just doing reruns? Z0rPr1me (7:46:36 PM): I dont think it is still going on Z0rPr1me (7:46:55 PM): Never watched Quantum Leap bashir325 (7:47:07 PM): where have you been? QueenSidhe (7:47:11 PM): It was a pretty good series. QueenSidhe (7:47:20 PM): But I didn't like the series finale at all. Z0rPr1me (7:47:26 PM): Jeff - I dont know... I dont think you need to read books to make that series tho bashir325 (7:47:29 PM): me either actually QueenSidhe (7:47:32 PM): It's about a guy from the near future who is a scientist. Z0rPr1me (7:47:47 PM): Roy - I dont see the fun in it. QueenSidhe (7:47:47 PM): He made an experiment to try to go back into his past. QueenSidhe (7:47:54 PM): Something like that. bashir325 (7:48:03 PM): fun about what? Z0rPr1me (7:48:08 PM): that show QueenSidhe (7:48:20 PM): Instead he now leaps into other people's lives to fix pivotal points in their lives. bashir325 (7:48:28 PM): ::lost:: Z0rPr1me (7:48:52 PM): you said "where have you been" after I said I never watched Quantum Leap. QueenSidhe (7:48:53 PM): Fun in which show? Z0rPr1me (7:49:07 PM): mb you didnt said that to me Z0rPr1me (7:49:17 PM): ::going back under is rock:: Z0rPr1me (7:49:19 PM): :-) bashir325 (7:49:42 PM): ahh, i see a light in the fog now Z0rPr1me (7:49:46 PM): lol Z0rPr1me (7:49:54 PM): back to paratime. :-) bashir325 (7:49:55 PM): but its just a will-o-the-wisp Z0rPr1me (7:50:01 PM): rofl Z0rPr1me (7:50:10 PM): ah well... forget it. bashir325 (7:50:15 PM): nod Z0rPr1me (7:50:20 PM): I never watched quantum leap and never will! :-) QueenSidhe (7:50:24 PM): Any particular point in paratime? bashir325 (7:50:47 PM): just lemme know if youre going to spoil it for me bashir325 (7:50:54 PM): please..................... Z0rPr1me (7:50:54 PM): lol k QueenSidhe (7:51:09 PM): One thing I wish there was more info on. Z0rPr1me (7:51:15 PM): I have no more question anyway... just want to know if thats a good read ? QueenSidhe (7:51:18 PM): What do the sector names mean/ Z0rPr1me (7:51:32 PM): I have no feelings about that book. I'm totally indifferent now bashir325 (7:51:39 PM): i understand the level names, but not the sectors Z0rPr1me (7:51:55 PM): Same. bashir325 (7:51:59 PM): ahh bashir325 (7:52:07 PM): 5th level, no colonization Z0rPr1me (7:52:13 PM): and the names are soooo wierd! KWM01 (7:52:17 PM): The point at which the history diviated I think QueenSidhe (7:52:18 PM): Yup. bashir325 (7:52:31 PM): 4th level (ours) colonized, but catastrophe and forgot where they came from Z0rPr1me (7:52:40 PM): thats us?! QueenSidhe (7:52:41 PM): I understood that. I'd like to understand the differences, though. Z0rPr1me (7:52:43 PM): rofl QueenSidhe (7:52:51 PM): Too much info to actually put in a book, though. Z0rPr1me (7:52:52 PM): thats me anyway hehehe bashir325 (7:52:53 PM): all the way up to 1st level, colonization successful, full memory, etc bashir325 (7:53:25 PM): hmm, lemme grab the book, i think my intro gives the levels QueenSidhe (7:53:31 PM): Where did you stop, Zor? QueenSidhe (7:53:37 PM): At Kalvan's story? Z0rPr1me (7:53:47 PM): Temple Trouble Z0rPr1me (7:54:03 PM): I finished Time Crime... Z0rPr1me (7:54:10 PM): Temple Trouble seems boring QueenSidhe (7:54:34 PM): You need to get past the first few pages. Z0rPr1me (7:54:42 PM): k KWM01 (7:54:47 PM): yeah, i gets better Z0rPr1me (7:54:51 PM): I'll finish it sometimes. QueenSidhe (7:54:58 PM): It kind of ties into Time Crimes. QueenSidhe (7:55:06 PM): The same mentality. QueenSidhe (7:55:14 PM): Or human attribute. QueenSidhe (7:55:19 PM): Not same crime group. QueenSidhe (7:55:34 PM): Dinner time for me. KWM01 (7:55:44 PM): nite QueenSidhe (7:55:48 PM): I'll talk to you guys later. Baileyslave (7:56:02 PM): nite Queen bashir325 (7:56:03 PM): not as good an explanation as i remembered Z0rPr1me (7:56:08 PM): well time crime was nice... mb i need to keep on |