SciFi/Fantasy Dominion

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The Golden Compass
by Philip Pullman



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ZorPrime67 has entered the room.
ZorPrime67: hello
QueenSidhe: Hi Zor.
ZorPrime67: first time here! hehe
QueenSidhe: Welcome!
ZorPrime67: thanks!
QueenSidhe: Have any trouble getting in?
ZorPrime67: Nope.
QueenSidhe: That's good.
ZorPrime67: real simple. click on the link at the bottom of the board
ZorPrime67: and here i am :-)
QueenSidhe: I was having some problems last night, but fortunately, they're rare. Foe me, anyway.
ZorPrime67: sad thing I didnt read
Golden Compass tho :-(
QueenSidhe: lol.
QueenSidhe: Do you like fantasy?
ZorPrime67: Yep
ZorPrime67: like sci/fi and fantasy. both. depends on my mood. theses days i would read anything fantasy :-)
QueenSidhe: It's an interesting book.
QueenSidhe: It's more alternate earth.
QueenSidhe: Lately, when I hear fantasy, I think of epic fantasy.
QueenSidhe: And maybe w/ elves.
QueenSidhe: So what else have you read recently besides Salvatore.
ZorPrime67: sorry had somebody here
ZorPrime67: let me think
ZorPrime67: I read a lot of sci/fi from french writer although
ZorPrime67: Just got back into fantasy
ZorPrime67: Currently reading Wyrd Sisters from terry Pratchett
QueenSidhe: I have Good Omens on my book shelf.
QueenSidhe: I should take the time to give it a look.
ZorPrime67: Didnt read that... yet! :-)
QueenSidhe: I hear it's hilarious.
ZorPrime67: It is
QueenSidhe: Although, I don't know all that much about anitChrist and his story.
ZorPrime67: The first 50-70 pages are sometimes confusing (for the books i read)... then its just plain hilarious
ZorPrime67: Some people dont like it because they say its just stupid because they dont like humor in fantasy
ZorPrime67: Snow crash is the next book to read right? sci/fi?
QueenSidhe: Yes.
QueenSidhe: I also heard that one is good.
ZorPrime67: k. I'll go find it this weekend.
QueenSidhe: It's about viruses and how it infect people, I think.
ZorPrime67: never heard that author.
QueenSidhe: He's won a couple of hugos/nebulas, I believe.
ZorPrime67: Ah!
ZorPrime67: You got any pref sci/fi or fantasy for a book?
QueenSidhe: I like them both.
QueenSidhe: Although at the end of last year, I really didn't feel like reading epic fantasy.
ZorPrime67: I understand...
QueenSidhe: I'd picked up a book by goodkind that other people on the board said was very good.
ZorPrime67: sword of truth series?
QueenSidhe: Took a look at it (and all the pages) and set it back down.
QueenSidhe: Yes.
ZorPrime67: heh. one of my friend told me to read that. I look at the book and said sure but its huge!!! :-)
ZorPrime67: is a slow reader
QueenSidhe: Similar reaction to another popular author's work too. Last name starts w/ T or S, I think.
QueenSidhe: Oh, I started Goodkind's, but I couldn't really get into it just then.
ZorPrime67: How many people show usually?
ZorPrime67: Sorry for all the questionning :-)
QueenSidhe: Usually no one, unless it's a special book.
ZorPrime67: heh
QueenSidhe: A few people were interested in this book, but it's late for them.
ZorPrime67: easier on discussing it on the board.
QueenSidhe: They're on the east coast.
ZorPrime67: eastern coast here too
QueenSidhe: Is this an okay time for you?
ZorPrime67: late a bit but i can make it and stay for about 30-45 minutes.
QueenSidhe: It used to be scheduled for 9pm EST, but when I was working over the summer, I didn't get home until around now.
QueenSidhe: Scheduling is always a problem.
ZorPrime67: k. was there more people when it was at 9PMEST?
ZorPrime67: yep
QueenSidhe: Yes.
QueenSidhe: As Jill said in one of the posts, she's asleep after 10.
ZorPrime67: heh
QueenSidhe: Although, she wanted to attend this chat.
ZorPrime67: I want too.... :-) thats why I'm here. wanted to see how it goes. and hear about that golden compass book. :-)
QueenSidhe: It's pretty interesting.
QueenSidhe: Although, I didn't understand all the religious aspects.
ZorPrime67: is it sci/fi or fantasy ?
QueenSidhe: Fantasy.
QueenSidhe: Alternate Earth with special features.
ZorPrime67: and its a trilogy right?
QueenSidhe: Yes. Golden Compass, Subtle Knife, and Amber Spyglass.
QueenSidhe: There isn't all that much religion. Just about original sin and some bits from genesis.
ZorPrime67: k
ZorPrime67: I gotta be afk a few. brb
QueenSidhe: But since I don't know the religion, I'm not sure exactly what Pullman means by original sin.
QueenSidhe: ok.
ZorPrime67: back.
QueenSidhe: wb
ZorPrime67: The story complicated ?
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ZorPrime67: meaning hard to follow.
QueenSidhe: Some of it because you aren't given all the details of why things are happening.
QueenSidhe: Hi Jill.
ZorPrime67: Hello Jill
QueenSidhe: Otherwise, not really.
QueenSidhe: It's supposed to be a YA book.
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QueenSidhe: Jill's having probs getting in.
ZorPrime67: Doh
ZorPrime67: YA book ?
QueenSidhe: young adult.
Jillski2 has entered the room.
Jillski2: that did it
QueenSidhe: That's it's category.
QueenSidhe: welcome, Jill.
Jillski2: Hi guys
ZorPrime67: hello
ZorPrime67: Oh
ZorPrime67: is harry pother
considered YA?
QueenSidhe: I think so.
Jillski2: queen, have you read subtle knife too?
QueenSidhe: No.
Jillski2: do you think you will?
QueenSidhe: The library here doesn't have it.
Jillski2: will they order it for you?
QueenSidhe: I'll try and check the library when I fly back to SF.
Jillski2: Ohh I keep forgetting your'e not home
Jillski2: where are you?
QueenSidhe: I'm opnly here for 2 more days.
QueenSidhe: LA.
QueenSidhe: Staying with my parents.
Jillski2: oh not exactly the boonies LOL
QueenSidhe: Well, suburb.
QueenSidhe: The closest library isn't all that great.
Jillski2: did you enjoy GC?
QueenSidhe: They got rid of the sf/f section about 4 years ago.
Jillski2: WHAT??? oh my
QueenSidhe: I know!!
ZorPrime67: dang
QueenSidhe: It now holds mysteries.
Jillski2: here the used book stroes put a premium on scifi
Jillski2: you can only get trade in credit to buy them IF you trade in scifi
QueenSidhe: SF is better. Maybe 5 used bookstores within walking distance.
QueenSidhe: I'd never been to a used bookstore (or heard of one) before moving there.
Jillski2: wow
QueenSidhe: I like half priced.
QueenSidhe: But the closed and moved.
QueenSidhe: Anyway, back to GC.
QueenSidhe: What's original sin?
ZorPrime67: thinking....
Jillski2: you mean how does the church define it?
QueenSidhe: All I know about the Bible is what I learned in hs English class.
Jillski2: it was the "betrayal" by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden
Jillski2: taking the bite of the apple
QueenSidhe: Disobeying God?
Jillski2: which I thik represents worldy knowledge and carnal knowledge?
Jillski2: yes
QueenSidhe: And does everyone carry that sin?
Jillski2: Im really not good at the bible stuff...
Jillski2: it was what made human kind bear the burden of it
Jillski2: I think that's the church's position ...but Im the worst one to ask
QueenSidhe: Better than me. lol
Jillski2: LOL
Jillski2: so that's where itt ties in to puberty
QueenSidhe: I can see that.
Jillski2: do you knnow where in GC
original sin is mentioned?
QueenSidhe: At the end. Chapter before Betrayal
Jillski2: cause you find out more in subtle knife
QueenSidhe: If severing is supposed to remove original sin, would the children ever gain sexual awareness?
Jillski2: p 373 i think
Jillski2: i suspect that severing kills all hungers
QueenSidhe: Well, if everyone is severed, what's left to procreate?
Jillski2: starts on 371
Jillski2: LOO good questioon
QueenSidhe: And the operation will have to be done one everyone since everyone supposedly carries original sin from birth.
Jillski2: isn't it to be the master race all over againn...not ALL severed
QueenSidhe: I have the pb version. There aren't 371 pages.
QueenSidhe: So the sinners rule?
Jillski2: oh I have the larger pb
Jillski2: dont they always?
Jillski2: brb..sneezing fit
QueenSidhe: Sinners and hypocrites.
Jillski2: k
QueenSidhe: Bless you.
Jillski2: ty ty
Jillski2: so is Lord Asriel good or bad? hee hee
QueenSidhe: I think he's a crazy zealot.
Jillski2: they all seem to be
Jillski2: Zor did you like GC?
ZorPrime67: didnt read it :-)
Jillski2: awwww
QueenSidhe: Olle posted a quote on the board and I thought, "he's going to sin to destroy sin?"
ZorPrime67: found board too late :-(
Jillski2: It's good, you might want to read it some other time
ZorPrime67: I'm searching the web for the original sin. hehehehe
ZorPrime67: I think I will... you both got me interested :-)
Jillski2: Zor...let's hope there's no one "tracking" you LOL
Jillski2: Queen, were you the one who didn't like to read books dealing with religion?
ZorPrime67: lol
QueenSidhe: Depends on how in depth it gets into, but yes.
Jillski2: this stays on level of anti-church dictates
Jillski2: bu it's in background
Jillski2: im having all kinds of allergy problems....rubbing eyes like crazy
Jillski2: I think I'll have to continue this on the boards...sorry
QueenSidhe: Alright.
QueenSidhe: I hope it gets better.
Jillski2: Nighters...nice to meet you Zor
QueenSidhe: Night.
Jillski2: thanks
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ZorPrime67: tho missed it... :-(
QueenSidhe: Missed what?
QueenSidhe: Saying bye to Jill?
ZorPrime67: him(her) leaving
QueenSidhe: Her.
QueenSidhe: She's the leader of Book Bunch.
ZorPrime67: found this: Adam and Eve
committed the Original sin because they did not obey God. God told them not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Bad
ZorPrime67: oh
ZorPrime67: damn those website are boring... hehehe
QueenSidhe: lol
ZorPrime67: oh well... what are you currently reading?
QueenSidhe: I was reading The Chronicles of Amber, but I've put it down for awhile.
QueenSidhe: I've mostly been playing Diablo 2 after finishing GC.
ZorPrime67: heh
QueenSidhe: :-)
ZorPrime67: I play d2 too! hehehe
QueenSidhe: Really?
ZorPrime67: yep
QueenSidhe: What character?
QueenSidhe: Do you like to multi?
ZorPrime67: i have a level 40 paladin and level 28 amazon
QueenSidhe: Cool.
ZorPrime67: I only play multi
QueenSidhe: I just started a paladin.
QueenSidhe: I'm trying to figure out what skills to get.
ZorPrime67: and i have a level 8 sorc Hardcore
ZorPrime67: thorns is good for start
ZorPrime67: My paladin is weak since I tried all skills hehehe
QueenSidhe: I like multi, but I can't find people to play w/.
ZorPrime67: doh
QueenSidhe: I have a hacked copy from my roommate so I can't get into b.net.
ZorPrime67: I mainly play on USeast
ZorPrime67: k
ZorPrime67: its hard to find others to play multi then
ZorPrime67: heh
QueenSidhe: Which makes it hard to find people..
ZorPrime67: sad
QueenSidhe: And I don't think I can upgrade patches past 1.02.
QueenSidhe: Very.
ZorPrime67: doh
ZorPrime67: how come cant upgrade?
QueenSidhe: I'll have to ask the person I got the game from.
QueenSidhe: I tried upgrading to 1.04 but I got an exception not handled error.
ZorPrime67: doh
QueenSidhe: It's time for dinner for me.
ZorPrime67: k... later
QueenSidhe: So, see you later.
ZorPrime67: nice meeting you
QueenSidhe: Same here.
QueenSidhe: And any advice for pal would be good.
QueenSidhe: =)
ZorPrime67: hehe....
ZorPrime67: thorns skill!!!!
QueenSidhe: ANd I can help w/ the sorc.
QueenSidhe: She was my first char.
ZorPrime67: mb we can play together sometimes
ZorPrime67: you use icq?
QueenSidhe: okay.
QueenSidhe: Aim more, but I have icq.
ZorPrime67: I dont use very much AIM.
QueenSidhe: email me at queensidhe@yahoo.com
ZorPrime67: I'm gonna buddy you on AIM k?
ZorPrime67: ok
QueenSidhe: sure.
QueenSidhe: Bye.
ZorPrime67: bye
ZorPrime67: icq number: 20364967.
ZorPrime67: later
ZorPrime67: bye
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